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Help with bay tree

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
     I don’t like throwing out living things. 
    Looking at the photos, I'm not sure that's actually 'living'.  :/
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    It looks dead to me. Scratch the bark in various places with your thumbnail. Green underneath alive. Brown dead.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited August 2021
    Just joined, so haven't been following this one.

    Looks like serious frost damage to me.  It can take a while to show.

    Cut back any leaves and branches that are definitely dead.And wait.  If it starts to regrow, leave it a year, say, and then start pruning hard to shape.  My guess is that it's a goner.  If you cut back the main stem, you could retrain a new mop-head standard in 4-5 seasons.  Maybe a column would be easier.

    PS My neighbour has a very large female bush (Bay are dioecious). Pigeons like the fruits and seedlings appear in my garden.  My two original trees are from Ghent But I now have several self trained.  In pots and in the borders: mop-heads, columns, Bay balls  (as in Cambridge).

    For the future.  Protect from frost.  I keep close to the house and put bubble wrap round the stem and fleece over the head from December to March.  Surrey.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    You really need to read the thread to get the gist. The damage is from a long time ago [August '20]  not this year, although the most recent photos are   :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    I am an experienced gardener.  Very experienced with bay trees.

    When I was an RHS member my membership number was below 5000, now they have over 400,000 members.  I resigned to save money, because the gardens had become themes parks, and because then couldn't answer my questions.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Oh well - we'll all just leave you  to it then  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Must admit I'm surprised that Bays in Surrey need winter protection but I suppose if they are all container grown, they could be a bit iffy.
    Always good to get an alternative view tho:)
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    Bays are expensive (except my home-grown and home-trained).  Better safe than sorry.

    In Surrey we can get frosts in late May.  Frost when the sap is rising does the most damage.  A bit of leaf or small branch frost can be shrugged off.  But main-stem frosting is serious.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • bédé said:
    I am an experienced gardener.  Very experienced with bay trees.

    When I was an RHS member my membership number was below 5000, now they have over 400,000 members.  I resigned to save money, because the gardens had become themes parks, and because then couldn't answer my questions.
    What a load of nonsense, you're telling me Wisley's Hilltop is a theme park? There's a difference between appealing to a small subsection of experienced gardeners or trying to inspire as many as possible. And I think the RHS are doing a very good job. We surely shouldn't decry them their membership success...I'd rather they're not a niche organisation.
    To Plant a Garden is to Believe in Tomorrow
  • TheGreenManTheGreenMan Posts: 1,957
    Fairygirl said:
    Oh well - we'll all just leave you  to it then  :)
    Yeah get back in your box @Fairygirl 😂
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