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Food standards ... what we need to know

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  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    Excellent article Dove but then preaching to the converted, time to sign a petition and continue to buy British!
    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."  Sir Terry Pratchett
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited August 2020
    That is frightening!
    Petition signed

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,295
    Thanks Dove ....  petition signed.

    Interesting article .... just glad I don't eat any meat or diary ... from any country.

    Bee x
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    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    Signed!
  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,066
    I've signed, so has Hubby.
    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
  • Sorry but this is yet another scare mongering article. I stopped reading after that "chlorine washed chicken" nonsense. People are obsessed with that because the "USA will buy the NHS", anti-trade deals, pro-EU blob has stirred up outrage again.

    Chlorine washing is designed to kill dangerous bacteria that exists in ALL chicken. Why do you think you must cook chicken fully, yet can eat other poultry medium cooked?

    The EU allow lactic acid wash to achieve the same goal. Any complaints? Quick, sign a petition to leave the EU and don't trade with them!

    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32013R0101

    As with everything, we live in a capitalist market society. If you don't want to eat a specific category of produce from any trade nation, don't buy it. If enough people don't buy it, the free market will ensure the product doesn't survive. That's why we're not all still wearing global hypercolour t-shirts from the 80s.

    That's also why you can still buy battery hen eggs for example, because there's a market for them. 

    The EU allows genetically modified crops, and the UK imports them for foodstuffs, and all the noise about that from 10+ years ago has died away as people realize everything we eat, from cereal crops to livestock, has all been genetically modified by humans for millennia. But because "science" was involved to help the process along for the last couple of decades, here be dragons. Better sign that "no trade with EU" petition again, they allow GMO.

    These petitions are fundamentally pointless and based on misinformation. I'm convinced that a fair number of them are orchestrated by the anti-brexit lot who want to find ways to tie the government in knots over trade deals, just so they can say "told you so".

    Don't like it? Don't buy it. Capitalist markets are great like that.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    edited August 2020
    I agree @herbaceous.   Round here supermarkets actively promote locally sourced foods which supports local growers.   I only ever buy free range chicken and organic eggs and well brought up pork because the life of the critter is important.  

    I can't cope with chlorine in a swimming pool and certainly don't want it on my chicken.

    Clearly, food production is big business but it needs to be ethical.  I won't be biuying an electric car as long as there's child slave labour in the mines for the minerals for the batteries nor anything made in China as long as they are oppressing and suppressing people and ideas nor clothes made in Asian sweat shops.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • @herbaceous @Obelixx I agree with you both. Your point about affordable eggs is exactly what I'm talking about - capitalist markets give us all the choice.

    I personally won't buy hormone-fed beef, but I support other people's right to choose it for themselves. 

    My issue is with the people setting up these petitions and using misleading, out of context info are trying to take that choice away from all of us for their own reasons.

    I don't see any balanced, nuanced discussion comparing for example EU acid-washed beef...
  • herbaceousherbaceous Posts: 2,318
    edited August 2020
    A petition is public display of support for a particular idea or concern, it cannot remove choice or personal preference since we are fortunate enough to live in a democracy (at the moment) and the fact that you have choice is good news. My point is that not everyone has choice, usually because of financial restrictions.

    Capitalist markets afford choice only to those who can afford it, those who cannot must survive as best they can. Animal welfare has come so far since I quizzed my first butcher I am reluctant to see it return to the 'old' ways rather I would like it to improve as it should in a civilised society.

    Just as a matter of interest (and to correct misinformation) you implied @strelitzia32 in your original post that lactic acid washes are approved by the EU for domestic poultry, this is not the case.
    "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."  Sir Terry Pratchett
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