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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    KT53 said:
    Apparently the full stop is aggressive!  To the snowflake generation at least.  The full stop should not be used.  Instead each message should be sent separately to avoid using one and stressing out the recipient.  Really????.......
    *'s sake. The world has really gone to s**t. 
    .......
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    . 😠. 😡. 😤. 👺. 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • TheGreenManTheGreenMan Posts: 1,957
    @KT53 @Fairygirl Online communication is a minefield. 

    It seems that anyone I speak to, born after about 1990, has a new rulebook about written communication that seemingly passed me by. 

    I stick to my way of communicating: using words spelled correctly; punctuation where it should be; and if the recipient is offended by "tone" then that's on them. 


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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited August 2020
    KT53 said:
    Apparently the full stop is aggressive!  To the snowflake generation at least.  The full stop should not be used.  Instead each message should be sent separately to avoid using one and stressing out the recipient.  Really????.......
    Well, that’s what you get if you read the Daily Fail and the Sun whose sole raison d’etre is to sell advertising and spread misery and discontent. I imagine a large proportion of their readers will have immediately turned to google to find out what a full stop actually is 🤣 


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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    As the owner of two 'post 1990' children, I think they'd have a good laugh at some of the responses their peers make on soshul meedja.
    Some deliberately play others too  ;)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Dove - it's been reported on BBC News.  Nothing to do with any newspaper.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    The problem with a lot of the media is that they report what the other media are saying ... you have to be a bit forensic and find their sources before you give an article any credence. 

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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Surely the whole point of communication is just that? If everyone in a conversation understands (correctly) the meaning of what is being said then that is all that matters isn't it? Don't we get tooooo hung up on words, punctuation and grammar as though they were in some way an art form and sacrosanct? Our brain is a pattern matching machine and it recognises words whether spelt (spelled or spelt?) corrcetly or not. 'Yoof' has always baulked at the teachings of the previous generations - they alter and change things and that is how languages, and the world, evolve. The only problem now is that the rate of change is faster than it's ever been - and the variety of platforms has meant that certain changes became a necessity (Twitter number of character restrictions being obvious - but no different to old telegram speak really).
    ...check that link again....

    ( that last one is quite amusing - see how quickly your brain adapts ...)

    I was also trying to find a test that I read once where it showed the brain only recognised (or only needed to recognise) the top half (I think it was the top!) of a letter - they had sentences like the number substitution above, but written in half letters and it was perfectly legible.
    I think in one of those Beeb Horizon thingies they were talking about how much you actually see anyway - and they were putting forward that your brain may at times only 'see' 10% - the other 90% it makes up from previous references. And (don't start a sentence with a preposition) it depends on what you're concentrating on anyway as to how much you see - the 'gorilla' walking across the scene test being an example (if you have never seen it before - it's here - http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/gorilla_experiment.html  and https://www.livescience.com/6727-invisible-gorilla-test-shows-notice.html).
    Fascinating eh? I think my frustration is that the platforms - and the protocols for using them - are changing so rapidly that there isn't a 'normal way' of communicating any more. How many people here use Emojis to express a whole thought process? In the future where bandwidth and digital storage space isn't any issue, will 'writing' be lost in favour of direct speech or video anyway?




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  • BigladBiglad Posts: 3,265
    Agreed @steveTu. The problem being the misinterpretation of what the brain converts "off of wot da eye Cs init fam"
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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Man is an island - no one hears, reads, sees, tastes - senses -  the same as you. All the symbols we use (letters, words, video) are imperfect ways of expressing thought and are open to misinterpretation anyway - and often are (how many times have you had a thought that when you transposed it to writing (or whatever medium) came across (or was taken by the 'recipient') as aggressive or submissive or....  - and not what you 'had in mind' at all?).
    Our brain converts 'everything' - our understanding is not a product of our eyes, but our brains. You will even read things differently depending on the mood you're in when reading it.
    Sooner or later we'll have thought to thought with emotion as a medium - but until that time...
    I have had no end of discussion with my kids about how the various platforms should be used to avoid misinterpretation - the obvious rule being the simpler the medium the less emotion it contains (hence the use of emojis to get around that problem) and the more open to misinterpretation. So - face-to-face being ideal, then video call, then phone,then voicemail,  then letter or mail, then text, then blanket 'announce to all and sundry'.
    What I find amusing as well is the misuse of emojis - where someone makes a cutting comment and then puts an emoji of laughter or humour or whatever to make out that the comment wasn't 'really' meant to be caustic - or have I misinterpreted those?
    Symbols eh?

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