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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited November 2021
    Indeed @Posy

    There were reports this year of worrying results from new studies into the effects of artificial light on wildlife 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58333233  

    I remember as a child being told that ‘the sea cleans itself’ … it was genuinely believed that humans could chuck their rubbish into the oceans and somehow it would  disappear and do no harm. We now know just how wrong that was. 

    Just as the old ideas that animals and humans somehow ‘adapt’ to changes in their environment and suffer no harm, sadly are being proved wrong day after day. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Things were different in the 70s
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Hostafan1 said:
    Things were different in the 70s
    We didn’t know how much we didn’t know, did we? 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    It was only meant to be a joke about airplanes landing, but I forgot that was not allowed.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Never mind @punkdoc … everyone’s funny bones are a bit different 😉 

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  • amancalledgeorgeamancalledgeorge Posts: 2,736
    Oh dear another moral panic in the making. A handful of lights that are on a timer so they illuminate for a few hours will have very little effect (in urban areas) and most low voltage systems have such a low output and is so focused on producing small pools of light, that comparing them to massive streetlights is ridiculous. If only we could use a harm to wildlife reason to stop people from putting ugly Christmas light displays...
    To Plant a Garden is to Believe in Tomorrow
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    amancalledgeorge said:
     If only we could use a harm to wildlife reason to stop people from putting ugly Christmas light displays...
    Any reason to stop such tacky tatt would be much appreciated
    Devon.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    The Christmas decos will be going up in our street next week, no doubt. Last year they went up in early October. In Dec you can indeed see our street from the International Space Station. If lights across Scotland start to flicker and go out, you'll know why. My neighbours compete to see who can bring down the National Grid. :D
  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    At least the Christmas lights are temporary and cheering. A couple in the lane parallel to mine have Fairy lights, spotlights and floodlights all year. They go on at dusk and stay on until 11 or 12. And I am in the country, not a town or city.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    For Christmas I put a set of fairy lights on a conifer that I have in a pot, but nothing too OTT. We don't have an outside power socket so they have to be solar ones. But I don't put the deccies up until the middle of December (and sometime later than that). Any earlier and I'm fed up with them before Christmas actually arrives.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
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