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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    "....Even the elders have forgotten how the world became this way, though they all agree ground zero was somewhere in what used to be Tack's Valley"

    I think this rose thread might be Ground Zero of rose world domination. Next year roses will certainly start to consume my bit of north London. It's not a bad way to go.

    "...the neighbour was last seen waving a pair of secateurs as she disappeared beneath the waves".
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    I agree @Fire .  I keep my husband informed that others like roses and buy quite a few too, if only to feel better about myself. But my dear boy has a lot to learn. I am a mere rose ingénue.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    Tack said:
    My family are having fun. This has been circulating but I caught my husband sniggering. I tortured him but he gave it up easily, from my son

    The year is 2336. Roses cover 86% of earth's landmass. The atmosphere is pungent and heady with rose pollen. There is nowhere left for human civilisation but among the thorny tangle. Even the elders have forgotten how the world became this way, though they all agree ground zero was somewhere in what used to be Tack's Valley

    LOL  :D
    South West London
  • my david austin - generous gardener bare root has just arrived!

    this will be my first rose so looking for a bit of advice..

    planning on planting in a new bed marked on the attached image and training one stem up and around the nearest pergola post with the rest across the garage wall 

    for the wall would a trellis work best or could i use a wire support?



  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    edited December 2020
    Hi @beau_gardens . I was very excited getting my first climber last year, also DA, The Generous Gardener. It is a lovely rose with a beautiful scent. While I am fairly sure the experts here will say trellis and wires are both fine, for this rose I would recommend wires on the wall. The reason is my experience of this climber tells me it will not fill a space quickly but after a year or so will throw up very long canes and you would have a lot of empty trellis where you don't manage to train a cane. This could be filled with something else of course.

    As to the canes, they are stiff and fragile, 3 of us on this thread have broken a GG cane this year, they snap before you even feel resistance. Needless to say I don't think there can be any winding of stems around a post. The training I managed in the first year was done with older stems, which goes against what the manual says. The training I managed this year on 7ft+ new stems was inch by inch with ties being adjusted regularly.

     Edit: to make the rose go where I want I will, in future, cut cane tops to make the side shoots go off in the right direction.
  • @Tack
     thanks! to be honest i'll be happy to fill some of the bare wall 
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    edited December 2020
    Tack said:

    As to the canes, they are stiff and fragile, 3 of us on this thread have broken a GG cane this year, they snap before you even feel resistance.
    That’s brought back painful memories for me Tack 😢 😄
    East Yorkshire
  • Sort of related - my comfrey roots (bought off eBay as nowhere has had comfrey in stock in any form this year) are starting to grow! Will plant in a patch at the allotment when they've grown on to use for feed/mulch. Will use for the roses too.


    East Yorkshire
  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    I've got a feeling I might have made a bit of a boo-boo. My order for 'Roundelay' is due to arrive today apparently, but, just out of curiosity, I googled some info about the breeder 'Swim'...and come up with this..
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