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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    @peteS - nasty, I’ve not had that yet. I did see a sawfly last year parked on Malvern Hills but I didn’t know what it was at the time! Can’t have been very successful as there wasn’t any noticeable damage.
    East Yorkshire
  • rock_henrock_hen Posts: 106
    Beautiful garden @Mr. Vine Eye
  • rock_henrock_hen Posts: 106
    edited August 2020
    could someone tell me what are good online shops for bare root roses apart from the obvious breeders please? Also could I hear postives and negatives about standard roses please? Thank you :)
  • @rock_hen I'm glad you asked that about standard roses.  I've been curious about them too.  As for bare roots, I'm sure Marlorena recently said that Trevor Whites were very good for bare roots.
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    My understanding - bearing in mind I've never had a standard so this is all theoretical!

    Positives -

    gives additional height to a rose. Which could be good in lots of different ways - depending on where you're going to put it.

    Takes up less ground space so allows underplanting.

    Pleasing form - if you like standards.

    Negatives -

    More suckers? Most of the sucker posts I've seen that are actually suckers are on standards because the trunk rootstock is exposed. Likewise when I've passed gardens with standards I've seen a lot of ones that have clearly been taken over - so you need to be vigilant and remove any growth from the trunk.

    I've also seen a lot of dead ones. They're much more vulnerable up there than shrub roses. The grafted points are way up on a stick, so they're open to the elements and if they get damaged, diseased or start to dieback, then recovery is much less likely.

    They're expensive.
    East Yorkshire
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Thanks for the video link @Marlorena, good explanation of the different scents - had to strain to hear him over that running water though and I missed the last bit as my internet gave up. Will try again to catch the end.

    On growing, feeding and pruning roses, I came across this article recently by Kim Rupert on HMF which is well worth a read - some of it was a real revelation to me, but fail to see what was ‘lazy’ about it!

    https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/ezine.php?publicationID=653&js=0

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Nollie, interesting article. I found low, medium and high pruning really interesting. I think he meant lazy by not spraying chemicals though spraying garlic water would take same effort too! 
    South West London
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    I also enjoyed the video, despite the poor choice of recording location with that water!

    I wanted to do the same thing at some point, have all of my roses in front of me and give them all a sniff test and have a go at grouping them or loose ranking.

    Especially after Marlorena asked about how Emily Bronte compares to Gabriel Oak. You really need them both in either hand to compare. I kept forgetting the smell on the short walk across the garden to the other plant! 😅

    As so many of mine are new, they’ve bloomed at funny times and not a huge number of them either. So it’s hard to compare.
    East Yorkshire
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