...lovely roses one and all, especially that Roald Dahl of Adrian's.. very special, it seems to be doing good everywhere..
..this is for @Nollie ..just to show you are not alone with grey mould/botrytis... it's been exceptionally humid here and I found this today on 'Bathsheba' a DA rose.. I've not seen this on Bathsheba before and the other blooms are fine.. ...you can see the characteristic pink mottling too that generally accompanies it. I have to say it's not something that bothers me unduly, but it's a bit of a shock when you suddenly see it there.. I mean, it's not exactly pretty..
..in other news... 'Blush Noisette'... 'Wilhelm' from the other day.. another of my finds this year.. this is a great hybrid musk.. sets tons of hips too.. and is supposed to be wonderful in the autumn... Phlox 'Rembrandt'... I like strongly scented white phlox.. Aster frikartii 'Monch'... Rudbeckia 'Green Twister'.. ..hardy plumbago.. Ceratostigma willmottianum... the colour is referred to as a cobalt blue..
..yes well done to Adrian for getting it right, especially seeing as you don't have all of those... I didn't enter because I've grown all 3 ... quizzes are fun..
..lovely roses edhelka.. you seem to have had a nice sunny day..
.. I've just checked the lightening radar,.. massive strikes all over north London and Essex.. and heading my way by the looks of it.. time to hide in the cupboard..
Lots of lovely roses in here again this year, it's always a nice thread to 'lurk' in I find. Unfortunately lost most of my pictures of this years roses due to a hard drive death.
Anyway, assuming it's alright, I was hoping to ask for some advice again, and since it's specific to roses though it's might simpler to ask here rather than clutter up the forum with another thread, this time regarding planting around roses. I have a bed that has 3 roses in it (and a winter heath tucked in at the base of one rose). The bed is about 1.5'-2' at the most wide with the roses planted in the centre, but because it's surrounded by pavement acts like a bucket and collects thousands of grass/other seeds.
However the only advice I can find online basically suggests you should never plant anything within a foot of a rose, but because of the narrowness of the bed anything planted would be at most 20cm away, and obviously would creep closer anyway. I was wondering about something like a low-growing Campanula, Violas, Speedwell or Dianthus, or possibly an annual like Limnanthes, but I just wonder if it would really be too small/close?
As I intend from now on to put any new roses into pots for a couple of years before planting them out... to see if I like 'em...can you tell me what would be a minimum size pot for this purpose. I've a few "traditional" Bill and Ben style pots available measuring 35cm x 30cm deep.
@Elothir It’s the traditional advice because then there’s maximum air flow, no competition etc. Probably the best for the roses but I prefer to underplant. I have lots of things...campanula, geranium, etc, whatever strikes your fancy. With newly establishing roses I would give them space but as yours are established it should not be a problem. I’d probably go for 9cm pots so you don’t run the risk of disrupting the roots with digging.
@Marlorena, no Botrytis isn’t pretty is it, sorry you have it. Hopefully it will be short-lived as although it gets very humid here, I think my high temps must normally protect me from it. You have had some good finds this year, are you still liking Carmen Wurth?
@edhelka I like your Purple Skyliner, very pretty. Oh and welcome to the pink club 😀
My find of the year is without doubt Stormy Weather. So far, SW is a healthy and generous bloomer. It’s attractive foliage stands up surprisingly well to heat, it has a neat, compact climbing habit and I still love it even when the smoky purple blooms turn pink:
Diamond Eyes is another good find, a little blooming bomb and very healthy so long as the dog doesn’t pee on it! I’d never really considered patio roses before, but as an edging plant, this one is working better and blooming more than my perennials:
Harlow Carr on it’s third flush. I keep saying I am going to get rid of it, so of course, this year it has been a good, healthy performer, so it’s got yet another reprieve! Blooms looking rather crinkled:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Elothir I’m struggling with underplanting roses too but for a different reason - my new rose bed is very rich in organic matter and composted manure, which the roses like but the perennials I planted find it too rich and are green and floppy, with poor flowering. I hope they will do better next year otherwise I will have to look for stuff that can cope with the richer conditions there.
In a more established bed with poorer soil and less fresh organic matter, I have white Gaura and Verbena Bonariensis Lollipop with roses as they are airy and compact and don’t compete. Salvia Caradonna works well there too, more upright.
I have been guilty of planting too close and find that, if other foliage touches or overshadows the roses they black spot much more quickly. Planting in a zig-zag fashion helps with fitting in plants between roses in narrow borders and I agree with Omori 9cm pots would be better rather than digging large holes to plant more established plants.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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..this is for @Nollie
..just to show you are not alone with grey mould/botrytis... it's been exceptionally humid here and I found this today on 'Bathsheba' a DA rose.. I've not seen this on Bathsheba before and the other blooms are fine..
...you can see the characteristic pink mottling too that generally accompanies it.
I have to say it's not something that bothers me unduly, but it's a bit of a shock when you suddenly see it there.. I mean, it's not exactly pretty..
'Blush Noisette'...
'Wilhelm' from the other day.. another of my finds this year.. this is a great hybrid musk.. sets tons of hips too.. and is supposed to be wonderful in the autumn...
Phlox 'Rembrandt'... I like strongly scented white phlox..
Aster frikartii 'Monch'...
Rudbeckia 'Green Twister'..
..hardy plumbago.. Ceratostigma willmottianum... the colour is referred to as a cobalt blue..
.. I've just checked the lightening radar,.. massive strikes all over north London and Essex.. and heading my way by the looks of it.. time to hide in the cupboard..
Anyway, assuming it's alright, I was hoping to ask for some advice again, and since it's specific to roses though it's might simpler to ask here rather than clutter up the forum with another thread, this time regarding planting around roses. I have a bed that has 3 roses in it (and a winter heath tucked in at the base of one rose). The bed is about 1.5'-2' at the most wide with the roses planted in the centre, but because it's surrounded by pavement acts like a bucket and collects thousands of grass/other seeds.
However the only advice I can find online basically suggests you should never plant anything within a foot of a rose, but because of the narrowness of the bed anything planted would be at most 20cm away, and obviously would creep closer anyway. I was wondering about something like a low-growing Campanula, Violas, Speedwell or Dianthus, or possibly an annual like Limnanthes, but I just wonder if it would really be too small/close?
@edhelka I like your Purple Skyliner, very pretty. Oh and welcome to the pink club 😀
My find of the year is without doubt Stormy Weather. So far, SW is a healthy and generous bloomer. It’s attractive foliage stands up surprisingly well to heat, it has a neat, compact climbing habit and I still love it even when the smoky purple blooms turn pink:
In a more established bed with poorer soil and less fresh organic matter, I have white Gaura and Verbena Bonariensis Lollipop with roses as they are airy and compact and don’t compete. Salvia Caradonna works well there too, more upright.