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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • cats_and_dogscats_and_dogs Posts: 71
    edited June 2020
    @Janie B loving your Aloha, I love the upright growth! I've grown seriously tired of any rose that droops :D ! What clematis are you growing through it? I love rose/clematis combos! Has your Aloha been quick to grow? Mine is looking quite small at the moment, but I know I have to be patient...
  • Janie BJanie B Posts: 963
    @cats_and_dogs
    The clematis is "Dark Eyes", so a very dark purple, planted earlier this year (I seem to remember @Marlorena recommended Niobe to go with Aloha, but it was out of stock at the time...) The Aloha was bought bare root in November 2018, and now is reaching the top of the column, so about 6ft or so...
    Lincolnshire
  • @Janie B- thank you, good to know your Aloha has grown so big quite quickly. I'll most definitely be planting a clematis with my Aloha, but will give the rose a year at least to get going. Will take a look at the clematis you mentioned, would love to see another photo of your Aloha when the clematis is in bloom :) !
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @Tack, My thinking is the advantage to buying a potted rose in summer is, apart from the impulsive treat element, is that you get to see some blooms this year, plus it will have more time to settle into your garden and develop roots, meaning you are at least a half season ahead than of you wait until November to plant a dormant bare root. The advantage of bare root being they are cheaper of course and usually there is a wider choice. It is all a matter of timing - when you realise you need another rose to fill that gap! If it were late August/September, I would wait for the bare root season. If it were now, I may be tempted by a potted rose.

    In your case, with bone dry ground... hmm, that’s tricky... buy now, lots of work to get the ground receptive but you get to enjoy the rose earlier or wait until bare root season. Think I would try and curb my impatience and wait, but not sure I would succeed 😃 

    What do others think?


    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    Last year, I’d been given a garden centre voucher from school, so I excitedly trotted off to where I’d seen a ‘Princess Alexandra of a Kent’ in bloom the week before. Unfortunately all the roses had had a very severe hair cut in the interim!

    So came back with a few stumps in a pot! Was very disappointed. She’s flowering now though!
    East Yorkshire
  • Victoria SpongeVictoria Sponge Posts: 3,502
    Welcome to the forum @Pianoplayer & @Watsonia

    I'd love to see a picture of your Papworth's Pride when you can @Katsa.  I was considering Papworth instead of another once flowering rose (but colour is an issue).

    I've decided my shopping list is just a list of nice roses for the time being.  I need my existing roses to flower to check I'm not buying something similar to those I already have (garden isn't big enough for duplicates).

    I had Tatton, an orange floribunda on my list and Cariad a pink Austin but I think perhaps I have enough oranges and pinks to be getting on with.

    I only buy plants in the winter months now @Tack.  I have too much clay content and insufficient water to look after summer bought plants.  I even buy perennials when they are just a brown lump in a pot.  I see them as an investment as there is no way I could manipulate the ground well enough for planting. Pots would be manageable I think but I also have a daffodil habit and my pots are generally already occupied. 
    Wearside, England.
  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 278
    I'll pop out after work and take some photos @Victoria Sponge. It only has one (sad looking) flower on it. It was planted just before the torrential rain so that's not surprising. I love the feel of the petals and the colour is sumptuous. 
     
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    That’s a good point about soil/water conditions. If your ground is workable and you’ll be able to water sufficiently, and you can afford to do so, potted roses would give you something to fuss over and, possibly, flowers to enjoy. Otherwise, bare root is the most economical, but of course you’re out there working in the colder weather. Depends if that bothers you, some people prefer to be fair weather gardeners, which is fine. For me I’d say late summer would be a cut off for buying potted roses. 
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    edited June 2020
    Loving the responses @Nollie @Mr. Vine Eye @Victoria Sponge You are understanding my dilemma well!

    As to noticing when I have a gap, it could be that I am furiously planning where I can turf something out to make one. The plants that look great in the off season eg Mahonia, Euonymous, golden privet look deadly dull now.

    And I like receiving budded plants and am disappointed to get budless ones.

    And delivery is likely to be 3 weeks (as DA now)which is gratification too much delayed.

    And I really must resist buying a less desired rose because the one I want is out of stock which means I have trouble later because I still covet the original object of desire.

    And yes the ground is rock hard and the prep and watering is a lot of effort.

    So I really need to be pursuaded to wait :)

    PS and I have spent enough

    Great point there about winter jobs @Omori



  • PianoplayerPianoplayer Posts: 624
    Thanks @Victoria Sponge . Very interesting that Tatton is on your list - I was looking for an orange rose as well, and spotted this one, which has scent and the dark foliage I like. I also liked the look of Westerland, but it seems it might be more climber-like. Would be interested if anyone has any experience of either.
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