@Dovefromabove my sister-in-law is convinced that her stepson had Covid before it had a name. He's asthmatic anyway but had a hacking cough and temperature for several days. He could hardly drag himself out to bed to get to the loo.
It's very easy now to be critical of the side effects of the Covid vaccines. People need to remember that creating a new vaccine used to take up to a decade. The scientists got Covid out there in a year. It was obviously impossible to know of any long term effects, but the short term effect of not creating and using the vaccines would have been far worse.
That's no consolation to those who have suffered severe side effects.
It was obviously impossible to know of any long term effects, but the short term effect of not creating and using the vaccines would have been far worse.
And yet this year, with several types available, the gov't have decided not to use them for the majority of the population.
Clay soil - Cheshire/Derbyshire border. I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful
If you have been damaged physically and/or mentally by the medical profession in the past it is very difficult to trust them for any future reason. VERY difficult. Your judgment is easily skewed by experience.
I think that's right. If someone in your family felt like they suffered one or way or another, that kind of experience sears into you. Trust is a fragile thing.
I had a rough time at my local hospital and find that I never want to go back for any reason. I probably will but I see have lost all trust in the whole place. This is perhaps not very sensible but the feeling is very strong.
It was obviously impossible to know of any long term effects, but the short term effect of not creating and using the vaccines would have been far worse.
And yet this year, with several types available, the gov't have decided not to use them for the majority of the population.
Perhaps they were taking a "wait and see" approach. The pros and cons of the millions involved are discussed upthread. As before, they can roll out vaccine programmes at quite short notice. It seems they offered the autumn booster in the same way as the flu jab - free to over 65s and those vulnerable. I suppose that hositalisation levels are the stats to watch (nothing else is being tracked.) If they rise sharply or mutuations cause big problems I suppose another approach can be taken. It's here for the long haul.
I suppose that hositalisation levels are the stats to watch (nothing else is being tracked.) If they rise sharply or mutuations cause big problems I suppose another approach can be taken.
Sounds a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
Anyway, to lighten the mood a little.....
Clay soil - Cheshire/Derbyshire border. I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful
Wouldn't want to spoil a good conspiracy story, but the vaccine choice was based on the contract the Government signed, which was largely based on cost.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
@Loxley Thanks for your cite. I know that this is all over the internet.
I only mentioned that because there was a side note in 2021 mentioning it turned out that "this whatever it was" which was told to disappears inside 3 months, when months later scientists had noticed it hadn't disappeared.
I'm no anti-vaccine person or wannabe expert, but I often read something in the newspapers and comments, and only later I can put 2 and 2 together. When I read this protein story in December, i said to myself, now, it's the second time that they claimed something, and now it looks like hey have no clue how it really works.
@Obelixx Covid was not one of the pandemics with a huge mortality rate as it turned out. With the vaccine in 2021, there was no justification to restrict the people in their movement especially when it became clear that being vaccinated doesn't stop the transmitting process. I don't know what happened in France, but Germany was a total disaster and I hope for the Germans that there will be one day a Covid inquiry that analyses what went wrong.
We don’t all see the medical profession as unfailingly right and many of us don’t trust the government either.
The NHS is struggling and overstretched I see no harm in a charge for vaccines for those who don’t qualify for a free one. If I wanted a vaccine I would pay for it and I am definitely not rich. It’s a matter of priorities.
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And yet this year, with several types available, the gov't have decided not to use them for the majority of the population.
I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful
Sounds a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
Anyway, to lighten the mood a little.....
I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
When I read this protein story in December, i said to myself, now, it's the second time that they claimed something, and now it looks like hey have no clue how it really works.
@Obelixx Covid was not one of the pandemics with a huge mortality rate as it turned out. With the vaccine in 2021, there was no justification to restrict the people in their movement especially when it became clear that being vaccinated doesn't stop the transmitting process.
I don't know what happened in France, but Germany was a total disaster and I hope for the Germans that there will be one day a Covid inquiry that analyses what went wrong.
I ♥ my garden.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border