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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    So much we don't know, yet.
    We had a ZOOM meeting yesterday and several of the experts seemed very nervous, hard to know whether this is just because we are at the everything is unknown stage, or whether it is because this variant does seem really bad.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • @punkdoc have the different strains that have appeared so far been any more serious than others in terms of severity of illness and mortality, rather than transmission or is that down to the individual's reaction? Have tried to Google it but no wiser. 

    I haven't stopped wearing a mask in the very few public places I do go to and still have a very small bubble of close family. Thankfully I took early retirement at the end of 2019 and have loved not having to make excuses to spend nearly every day in the garden. My admiration for those on the front line and working through it all knows no bounds.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    @Angelicant It is very hard to know that, because each new strain has so quickly become the dominant strain, that previous strains have disappeared. This has also coincided with advances in treatment and the spread of vaccination, which would make comparison very difficult.
    The biggest concern with Omicron, is that the fairly massive mutation within the spike protein, will make vaccination less effective.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Hot off the press: there is a feeling in SA that the new variant might have arisen in a patient already infected with the Delta variant.
    Immunologically this is apparently very important [ although beyond my ability to understand ] and makes it far more likely to be vaccine insensitive.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    That's worrying

    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Yes indeed. The best hope is to remember that Sars cov 1 mutated so much it became ineffective and died out. In the meantime listen to the Doc, he knows what he is talking about. 
    AB Still learning

  • Watching the Andrew Marr prog. Dr from SA who found first cases, said patient had unusual symptoms but  quite mild disease.  Main issue was all family were positive too, and a big cluster  of cases quickly emerged.  We will have to wait and see. 
    AB Still learning

  • OH is very relieved that there’s going to be more maskwearing again now,  especially in shops  … he’s never stopped wearing a mask all day at work, but he said that some customers have not worn masks and don’t keep their distance. As he says, the customer may feel relatively safe just popping in and out of a shop, but the staff are in that space all day with potentially a greater exposure to a cumulative amount of virus.

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • I'm thankful too that Boris has brought back mask wearing, especially on public transport. We've never stopped wearing our masks, but unfortunately many people in shops and on buses stopped.  Hopefully he will bring other rules back too, so that hopefully we can have an almost normal Christmas. 
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    star gaze lily said:
    I'm thankful too that Boris has brought back mask wearing, especially on public transport. We've never stopped wearing our masks, but unfortunately many people in shops and on buses stopped.  Hopefully he will bring other rules back too, so that hopefully we can have an almost normal Christmas. 
    About time too!
    I fear that it might be too little, too late though.

    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
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