Really? What about sex, age, colour, gender, religion... anything else that is seen as 'ist'? Should a job be able to say you can only work here if you've had MMR vaccine... or how about if you don't have a learning disability..... Where are your lines? What can a job enforce?
I personally think you open a can of worms when you say that the gov/job can dictate how you control your own body. AFAIK that has been up to the individual so far.
Of course - they looked at the evidence and came to the conclusion that it was right for them and others. BUT it was a choice.Do you not agree that some people chose NOT to be vaccinated for their reasons?
Can I ask you then, as you're closer to Covid and care, why was the flu vaccine never then mandated given that it was known to kill a certain sector of the population each year?
I imagine it wasn't needed to be mandated ... there wasn't all this stupid and ridiculous stirring up by anti-Vaxxers on the internet. People trusted the science and their physicians and certainly in my job we understood our responsibility to the vulnerable children we came into contact with, their carers and the entirety of Social Services staff who would not be able to carry out the much needed work that we did every day.
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I'm opened to be convinced. The dilemma to me is that line between doing good to others and being coerced into doing something to your own body that others don't have to do. Surely any change to your own body cannot be a requisite of a job? Where does that end up?
@Stevetu obviously not the -ists! But being prepared to protect yourself and your colleagues and customers/patients is part of being capable of doing a job, like qualifications and experience, like using the PPE correctly if you're in a job that requires it, like being able to follow the correct procedures and work instructions, and so on. Not being prepared to do that could be seen as not having the right attitude, as well, and we all know that being able to "fit in" in a workplace is often very important. There should be no job that requires a particular gender, skin colour
etc and only a few that require a particular religion (priest, imam,
rabbi, vicar etc). Age is tricky where you need a certain amount of
experience but shouldn't be a barrier on its own.
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Some patients refused to be treated by medical and nursing staff of the opposite sex. There are a lot of jobs that require medicals, weight loss certain height restrictions. One assumes Pilots and cabin crew alighting in some countries are required to be vaccinated. Even for a basic driving test,there are health "rules", my granddaughter's Mum recently failed her driving test, before she even left the test center on her eyesight! If you don't want to be jabbed etc,don't go for these jobs
I'm sorry but believing a microchip will be implanted in your body is not a valid reason. Flu is different: it has never caused the same number of cases, and the vaccine is not nearly as effective.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
Are there asymptomatic cases of flu? I would imagine most people would not be at work if they had flu, whereas symptomless or mild COVID would mean much more likelihood of passing it on.
'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
As for flu - ok so it's down to the number of cases and efficacy of vaccine? Why then is the NHS not enforcing vaccination now (or even back in July when the numbers peaked), rather than leaving it to April next year? So you're saying that it's ok to go through the winter months without the staff being vaccinated, but to then enforce vaccination in Spring? I really can't get my head round this.
I think it was said on one of the Covid threads earlier when Covid kicked off, that flu can be asymptomatic. A quick search (or Google) may confirm that.
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My guess, based on flimsy knowledge, is that Covid is more deadly than flu and the Covid vaccine is more efficacious than the flu one.
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Flu is different: it has never caused the same number of cases, and the vaccine is not nearly as effective.
When you don't even know who's in the team
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