I agree but by the same token shouldn't all those who died of something other than COVID but were recorded as COVID deaths because they tested positive within 28 days, be removed from the figures unless it can be proved it contributed to their death.
shouldn't all those who died of something other than COVID but were recorded as COVID deaths because they tested positive within 28 days, be removed from the figures unless it can be proved it contributed to their death.
why, what difference would it make to anything? Understanding how many people have died in different countries that have adopted different strategies would potentially be useful, for the next pandemic or later parts of this one. But given that the international protocols, even in countries where you have some confidence they are trying to get it right, are all at variance so comparisons are really difficult and therefore probably not useful. Hindsight may provide us some answers, but as we are now, in the middle of it all, knowing exactly how many people have died because they were infected with Covid, as opposed to having died because there is a Covid pandemic, isn't going to change either policy or outcomes
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“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
One lesson for many is underlining the vital importance of decent, reliable data, locally, national and globally - it's all we really have. Otherwise we are groping about in the dark and can't learn for the next time as we have no idea of what's really going on.
Most men over 65 have prostate cancer. How many die of it? How many die with it?
Most probably don't know they have it and unless a detailed Post Mortem is done, it won't be recorded. If it is recorded as being present, should it be on the death certificate?
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
I don't see the connection @punkdoc. Many people live with all sorts of undiagnosed health conditions which don't necessarily adversely affect their lives or kill them so no, if they die of cardiac arrest, an aneurism or a blood clot the only reason to note the prostrate cancer is as another statistic for monitoring it's prevalence.
Covid, on the other hand, is causing avoidable deaths in those who have caught it because the precautions to avoid it have not worked or have not been followed properly and it is also consuming so many health resources - medical staff, hospital beds and equipment, that other normally survivable conditions are not being treated and are killing people.
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The connection is plenty of people who die have COVID, but the COVID is not actually contributing to their death, but is being recorded on their death certificates.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
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“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
How many die of it?
How many die with it?
Most probably don't know they have it and unless a detailed Post Mortem is done, it won't be recorded.
If it is recorded as being present, should it be on the death certificate?
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
Covid, on the other hand, is causing avoidable deaths in those who have caught it because the precautions to avoid it have not worked or have not been followed properly and it is also consuming so many health resources - medical staff, hospital beds and equipment, that other normally survivable conditions are not being treated and are killing people.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border