If Vicks first defence can prevent and improve the recovery rate of colds and COVID19 is similar to colds, has anyone been testing to see if it could be effective on COVID19?
I have wondered about this too, the thing is they say it is not air-born (in fine droplets) like cold & flu and it seems to mostly enter the body by direct contact to mouth nose or eyes so I am not sure if it (first defence) would have any effect.
Ah, ok yes
Not correct, it is spread by droplets and we are advised to keep 6 feet apart, which is why France has closed everywhere that the public meet such as restaurants and cinemas. See punkdoc's post.
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
@Songbird-1 If people are following the guidance, then anyone who is even vaguely likely to have the virus will be staying at home. You can call and say you're unwell in the morning. Or you can go and if anyone there is even vaguely coughing you can insist on going home because of the risk. Keep your distance, wash your hands, don't eat uncovered food or until you've washed your hands, take your own water to drink. It's not inevitable that you'll meet someone with the virus - not yet.
Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
THIS WILL PROBABLY SEEM ALARMIST TO MANY OF YOU, BUT MY ADVICE WOULD BE THAT ANYONE OVER THE AGE OF 70, OR WITH SEVERE PRE EXISTING ILLNESSES, SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER SELF ISOLATION. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THIS WILL SOON BE GOVERNMENT ADVICE. I AM SURE MANY OF YOU DISAGREE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE OF PREVENTING CONTRACTING THE DISEASE.
PLEASE DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
Punkdoc what conditions? My fiancé is a type one diabetic but otherwise very healthy and under 50, he is a freelance chef so no work at the moment because people are not eating out. Should he be more careful? Son in law is a very healthy 28 year old with asthma, not severe, he works outdoors but again, should he be concerned?
Sorry to ask you to comment on people you don’t know but government advice is very non specific, if you feel unable to advise no worries.
I've been doing it all week @punkdoc ... and I'm only 68
I'm fortunate in having a younger OH ... Mine is insisting on doing all the shopping ... as he doesn't drive when we need several things I stay in the car in the carpark while he shops, otherwise he cycles. If we need to do a 'big shop' we'll do it online.
Although I'm not yet 70, I have BP issues, so I'm staying at home most of the time and avoiding all gatherings/groups etc ... OH has to go to work but when he comes home he goes into the spare room and changes his clothes, showers etc. There's not a lot more we can do other than stay positive We hope we can get out to walk on deserted bits of coastline from time to time ... but if we can't so be it.
My family have been told to stay away and prioritise their own health.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
@debs64. It is such a difficult question to answer and any answer would be a bit of a guess. I can only answer as to what I would do if it were my family.
I think your son in law should be fine. I believe your partner is at more risk and should certainly take as many precautions as possible, avoiding busy places etc., but I don't feel confident into giving an answer about him self isolating, sorry.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
That’s absolutely fine thank you. I will keep a close eye on him but as I work in a pharmacy I know I will almost certainly get the virus, we are being told we have to hand out prescriptions to people not allowed into the surgery via the side door so it’s just a matter of time. We have a spare bedroom if the worst happens. I am trying to be sensible about the risks without panicking. Thanks for all your advice generally on this forum. It has been invaluable.
Punkdoc, what you have just said was almost exactly the same advice given to my wife (aged 67, immuno-compromised) by her GP last Thursday. She has little intention of leaving the house for the next four months other than visiting very close friends when no others are present.
We have cancelled our holiday in April, a history conference last weekend, a university reunion in London next week, a theatre visit the week after. I am going out but much less than normal and only to places which are not likely to be busy. When appropriate I don surgical gloves and use antiseptic wipes, for example on the handle of supermarket trolleys. Largely we have now switched to online shopping.
We hope holidays booked for September and October can proceed as planned but, if not, c’est la vie.
Relatedly, did people see the story in this morning’s Observer that, because of Brexit, we could get the COVID-19 vaccine later than EU countries and pay more for it?
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“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
When you don't even know who's in the team
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THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THIS WILL SOON BE GOVERNMENT ADVICE.
I AM SURE MANY OF YOU DISAGREE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE OF PREVENTING CONTRACTING THE DISEASE.
PLEASE DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
I'm fortunate in having a younger OH ... Mine is insisting on doing all the shopping ... as he doesn't drive when we need several things I stay in the car in the carpark while he shops, otherwise he cycles. If we need to do a 'big shop' we'll do it online.
Although I'm not yet 70, I have BP issues, so I'm staying at home most of the time and avoiding all gatherings/groups etc ... OH has to go to work but when he comes home he goes into the spare room and changes his clothes, showers etc. There's not a lot more we can do other than stay positive
My family have been told to stay away and prioritise their own health.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I think your son in law should be fine.
I believe your partner is at more risk and should certainly take as many precautions as possible, avoiding busy places etc., but I don't feel confident into giving an answer about him self isolating, sorry.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
We have cancelled our holiday in April, a history conference last weekend, a university reunion in London next week, a theatre visit the week after. I am going out but much less than normal and only to places which are not likely to be busy. When appropriate I don surgical gloves and use antiseptic wipes, for example on the handle of supermarket trolleys. Largely we have now switched to online shopping.
We hope holidays booked for September and October can proceed as planned but, if not, c’est la vie.
Relatedly, did people see the story in this morning’s Observer that, because of Brexit, we could get the COVID-19 vaccine later than EU countries and pay more for it?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-vaccine-delays-brexit-ema-expensive