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  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    1325 deaths today, and we're only just starting to climb the peak :(
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    AuntyRach said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55579028

    Nurse tests positive three weeks after vaccination. 
    This is the reality of a vaccine which isn’t 100% effective. 
     Please someone correct me if I am wrong!
    The vaccine does not stop you getting the virus (SARS-CoV-2) but helps to stop you getting the disease (Covid-19) by fighting the virus before it can give you the disease.
    So I can see why someone would test positive for the virus after vaccination and as I understand it you can still pass the virus on to others.
    It is the disease that means hospitalisations so that is what is being stopped (hopefully) by being vaccinated.
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    😵. I don't understand but I want to. Can you try again?
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • AuntyRachAuntyRach Posts: 5,291
    @madpenguin: The vaccine will greatly reduce your chance developing COVID. If you do contract it, the vaccine should reduce severity of the illness. 

    So, yes, we will see positive people who have been vaccinated but hopefully not in great numbers or with serious illness. 


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  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    B3 said:
    😵. I don't understand but I want to. Can you try again?
    The virus and the disease are 2 different things.
    The vaccine helps fight the virus when you get it so it cannot give you the disease or only to get it less severely.

    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    edited January 2021
    No, some people can still get a severe illness after having the vaccine, although only about 5 - 10%.
    Also no one knows at present how long the vaccine will work.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Someone somewhere had to decide an order to the vaccine, glad it wasn't me.It does take time to provide antibodies, you are still told to be careful even after receiving it.Having covid does not guarantee immunity, you stil need the vaccine.  I don't think it will magically go away, it's like flu, different variants regularly.  Talking about the beginning of the thread Punkdoc, I am on a nother forum, a couple of months back, the people on there were saying there was a big fuss about nothing, THEY didn't know a single person who had had the virus, (do the asymptomatic go around with a big red cross on their forhead) now, they know whole families affected, are weeping and wailing
  • The French started with health care workers and have been criticised for their slow roll out. No real winners in this.
    AB Still learning

  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    My opinion is unchanged. I still feel that the terrible effects of the lockdown on the economy and mental health of the country as a whole outweigh the effects of the virus. It appears that as soon as it is given the opportunity by the relaxation of rules the virus will spread quickly and at some point the rules will have to be relaxed permanently. If the NHS was properly funded and staffed the crisis would have been averted but instead billions have been wasted shutting the door long after the horses have bolted. In my opinion this government should be thoroughly ashamed of the way they have handled this pandemic. 
    There is a shortage of people trained to administer the vaccine, why was this not addressed 6 months ago? Presumably because Boris can’t make any money by training people. What a pity none of his chums decided to set up a training programme and rob  the country of millions by doing so. 
    I accept that this is my personal opinion and others feel very differently. I hope those of you who do are happy with the way things have been handled. I am not happy. 
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    @debs64But it isn't just the effect of the virus is it? If you have an accident - fall on the ice and break a leg, get an electric shock, have a heart attack, have a stroke, cut your arm gardening - they all rely on a working NHS. The NHS is just barely working with Tier 4 and lockdown in place - what chance had no lockdown happened? Then what happens to the people in that car accident?
    The problem was resource. Covid takes lots of resource. Lots of resource that then isn't available to other issues.

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