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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Do they test for the virus before you get the jab? It seems a bit of a waste of you've got Covid or had it already
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • B3 said:
    Do they test for the virus before you get the jab? It seems a bit of a waste of you've got Covid or had it already

    Good question.  I think it would be madness not to test at the same time as doing so would provide extremely valuable data.
    I don't think using the result to decide whether you actually then get the jab there and then would work though due to the delay and the known unreliability of 'fast' tests.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Unfortunately the elderly won't simply keel over and die if they don't have the vaccine (very selfish of them I admit).  They are far more likely to be seriously ill for extended periods of time thereby occupying ICU beds.  The stated reason for vaccinating those with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana skin (one of my mum's favourite expressions) is to reduce the numbers in ICU.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    B3 said:
    Do they test for the virus before you get the jab? It seems a bit of a waste of you've got Covid or had it already

    Good question.  I think it would be madness not to test at the same time as doing so would provide extremely valuable data.
    I don't think using the result to decide whether you actually then get the jab there and then would work though due to the delay and the known unreliability of 'fast' tests.

    None of the tests are 100% accurate and testing everybody when they are being vaccinated would take additional time and resources.  That would slow down the vaccination programme.  Simpler just to vaccinate all those in the relevant groups.
  • It only takes seconds to swab but I agree that a robust IT and labelling system would need to be in place and I doubt that is there.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    one is supposed to get an idea and then defend it regardless of evidence to the contrary
    Like Flat Earthers you mean ?😉

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    An open mind with a good filtration system is the thing to have.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    punkdoc said:
    It makes fascinating reading to back to the start of this thread and see what people were saying. I wonder how many hold slightly different views now.

    Me for one, and my views are still changing. I'm not very good at forming an opinion and sticking to it. I put it down to doing too much science at school - new information = revised thinking. I know it's not fashionable - one is supposed to get an idea and then defend it regardless of evidence to the contrary

    And me. Opinions are based on information available at the time, so of course they change.
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  • Balgay.HillBalgay.Hill Posts: 1,089
    edited January 2021
    North of England seemingly no Covid hospital beds left, so Covid patients moved over the border into Scotland according to the Independant.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/covid-hospitals-overwhelmed-england-scotland-cumerland-dumfries-b1783111.html
    Sunny Dundee
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