Unfortunately, the reality is very different, as became clear both speaking to local colleagues and the national research group I remain part of. I certainly don't advocate an age cut off, but it is clear to me, that our priorities are wrong at present.
Todays good news the results of the REMAP-CAP study are really encouraging. The drugs are already being used in my old hospital.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
Definitely good news Punkdoc, My son is given similar. I was told today that the older people need the vaccine first apparently because they are the ones most likely to need hospital treatment.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
I don't normally post on this thread [for reasons I won't go into] but I'd like my daughters vaccinated before me. They're both key workers, and I don't have to see or meet anyone. Anyone working in a care home [not just the carers] should have been vaccinated right away. After all - how do residents contract it..... In an ideal world - I think all front line workers would, and should, be vaccinated first, regardless of age, but it's far from being an ideal world.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
The logic is pretty brutal, vaccinate those most likely to require hospitalisation first, to relieve the pressure on hospitals and focus treatment on those more likely to recover quickly, and allow the NHS to continue providing care for non-covid issues. Obviously hospital and frontline healthcare workers need vaccinating too to stop the system collapsing from staff shortages. Judging by the facebook posts of family and friends who work in hospitals, this is starting to happen - several I know have been vaccinated this week.
"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour".
@Loxley is right, the older people are more likely to need need beds. i suppose they thought this was the best way to go with vaccines, if they can cut down the numbers who needs the beds it frees beds and staff for other treatments. It won’t be long before everyone who wants it will be at least 50% safe, not from catching it but from dying from it.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
@Loxley- my sister was due to have surgery [knee] today. It was cancelled a couple of days ago. The surgeon had been vaccinated, but in that period where there is no 'cover' he has tested positive. He has no symptoms. The biggest problem up here just now is the amount of folk going into hospitals because of falls due to the severe ice we've had for a fortnight. That's putting a huge strain on already overstressed facilities. If they don't have the right kit, and don't need to go out, they simply shouldn't If some folk would just find some bl**dy common sense it might help.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I know of three 'fit elderly' folk (early 80s) who were just fine living on their own and coping well, who have had to be taken to hospital for injuries over the last few months. They tested negative on admission but contracted Covid in hospital ... one has died and the other two are on ventilators and very poorly indeed ... not the hospital's fault they caught Covid ... just one of those things ... but if those patients hadn't caught it they'd have been in and out of hospital in a few days ... now they're taking up beds in ITUs for weeks and weeks.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
She's brilliant @pansyface. I'm not sure how familiar folk 'darn sarf ' are with her, although I think she's been on HIGNFY a couple of times. Tells it like it is.
I said it on another thread recently - what do people not get about four simple words? It's not about you. Simple.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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I certainly don't advocate an age cut off, but it is clear to me, that our priorities are wrong at present.
Todays good news the results of the REMAP-CAP study are really encouraging. The drugs are already being used in my old hospital.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
I was told today that the older people need the vaccine first apparently because they are the ones most likely to need hospital treatment.
Nurse tests positive three weeks after vaccination.
This is the reality of a vaccine which isn’t 100% effective.
Anyone working in a care home [not just the carers] should have been vaccinated right away. After all - how do residents contract it.....
In an ideal world - I think all front line workers would, and should, be vaccinated first, regardless of age, but it's far from being an ideal world.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
i suppose they thought this was the best way to go with vaccines, if they can cut down the numbers who needs the beds it frees beds and staff for other treatments.
It won’t be long before everyone who wants it will be at least 50% safe, not from catching it but from dying from it.
The biggest problem up here just now is the amount of folk going into hospitals because of falls due to the severe ice we've had for a fortnight. That's putting a huge strain on already overstressed facilities. If they don't have the right kit, and don't need to go out, they simply shouldn't
If some folk would just find some bl**dy common sense it might help.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I said it on another thread recently - what do people not get about four simple words?
It's not about you.
Simple.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border