Of course the police don’t have the resources to monitor and enforce all aspects of the law. Similarly as citizens we must make our own judgements on when to intervene.If we saw a bank robbery taking place or a potential terrorist incident we’d dial 999. If we saw someone shoplifting a bar of chocolate in Tesco or infringing the speed limit we wouldn’t.
Where does not wearing an obligatory mask come on this spectrum? Surely much nearer the latter than the former.
I think if you get yourself a really good mask that will filter most of the virus should someone cough close onto you, you will be ok. if the others don’t want to that’s there look out. We are all responsible for our own lives, not others.
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Totally follow your frustration, but the problem with introducing more social control into law is that people have to buy into it. Laws are only a contract - they rely on compliance to avoid the penalty. Speed limits only work if the vast majority of people are willing to drive at those speeds - if more people speed than don't, the police couldn't police it. Same with mobile phone use in cars. Impossible to police.
I personally don't think the people working in and of the 'interactive' public services are there to enforce law - they get enough abuse as it is. The police don't have resource - so the only thing 'enforcing' the law is the will of public spirited people who see the reasoning behind the law. There are always those who will smoke in no-smoking areas, will use their phone while driving, will speed, will ignore social distancing, will organise parties for 200+ people during a lockdown...
The reasoning behind making thing 'law' is two fold though isn't it? Hopefully, by making something law rather than advisory it re-inforces the importance of that 'thing' to most socially responsible people - and more importantly makes them 'think twice'. Secondly, it does mean that people who are caught breaking the law can be made en example of.
IMHO the problem is that not enough people were made examples of - the law needed a few cases to prove the law. All but made impossible though by how people at the top have behaved - from Boris' dad, to Cummings, to Corbyn, to..... in regard to law and advisories.
How can you enforce law regarding masks on buses when some stupid high profile person knowingly travelled from England to Scotland with Covid and not only still has their job, but hasn't as yet been dealt with by the police?
It is a shame that we don’t have the ability to have effective inspectors on all buses. It is more of a shame that people won’t wear masks and worse that they will argue the toss. This is just a reflection of society in general.
so u are saying if i become a Special...my opinion of society will change ? NO IT WONT
Not at all ... I just thought it might appeal to your predilection for telling folks what to do, and that you might be able to learn about how the law is administered in a democracy ... obviously I was mistaken 😢
And please don’t shout at me ... it’s rude and aggressive.
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Don't you think this all comes down to lack of imagination?
We all buy into law because we can imagine the results of an action - we don't steal because we don't like the thought of being stolen from - we don't hurt people because we don't want to be hurt.. blah, blah.... selfish and self preserving rules. Even something as abstract as a speed limit then creates an image (in the minds of some) of the accident being far worse and the risk higher, should one occur, when above that limit - this law adherence is more akin to Covid rule adherence in as much as it's more about protecting others more than yourself.
The issue that the law has here - is that the vast majority of people never come in contact with this virus. The young, even if they get it, are being reported constantly of getting mild symptoms. The personal risk to some then is small. I have lived 60 years plus and none of my family has ever had flu even. So to imagine a killer disease is difficult - but I have an imagination and can see and feel the suffering of the poor sods caught up with Covid - from the families of victims to the families of the people trying to help fight it. For a whole cohort of people though, they will never see the virus and never know anyone who has had it. So the law becomes....what? They don't see the benefit of the law to themselves and to others close to them.
So for some people it needs a personal experience before they realise the wisdom in the rules. They don't have the imagination to see the effect their actions may have - or - they do see and just don't give a stuff anyway.. Either way, the police can no more effectively police the mask rule than it can enforce the 'hands free' phoning in a car.
I don’t wear a mask when I go out, not that I go out that much, although I have been to the hairdressers this morning. I do not have paperwork to say I am exempt. I had a stroke eight years ago and only have the use of my left hand now. My right hand shakes quite violently if I attempt to do anything but is still when I go to bed, the same with my right leg, still when I relax but shakes when I walk. As I am supposed to put my mask on myself without any help I am unable to put one on. So when I am standing in a queue or even sitting on a bus I would look as though I should be wearing one.
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Of course the police don’t have the resources to monitor and enforce all aspects of the law. Similarly as citizens we must make our own judgements on when to intervene.If we saw a bank robbery taking place or a potential terrorist incident we’d dial 999. If we saw someone shoplifting a bar of chocolate in Tesco or infringing the speed limit we wouldn’t.
Where does not wearing an obligatory mask come on this spectrum? Surely much nearer the latter than the former.
if the others don’t want to that’s there look out.
We are all responsible for our own lives, not others.
It is more of a shame that people won’t wear masks and worse that they will argue the toss. This is just a reflection of society in general.
https://recruit.college.police.uk/Special/Pages/default.aspx
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And please don’t shout at me ... it’s rude and aggressive.
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