Another thought: when Ferguson took a couple of trips across London to see his mistress, it was reported but without the feeding frenzy that seems to have beset journalists at the moment.
There was a frenzy, but short lived - because he, correctly, immediately stepped down from his position with a great degree of contrition. Because public figures flouting the rules is very damaging to the public health message.
And when the news re Cummings came out, people like BBC politics correspondant Laura Kuennsberg immediately leapt to provide cover.
"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour".
Can I ask a question on behalf of a friend? Yes, really!
Just before the early June quarantine for travellers from overseas comes into play officially, my friends are hosting a family member from Australia who’ll be collected by car from Heathrow and then will spend two weeks in the house before travelling on up to Middlesbrough to see her elderly mother and sick sister who’s undergoing chemotherapy.
My question is must my friends isolate in the house as well? Currently he goes to the shops once a week and she works part time as a nurse. Does anyone know the official position?
If this is real... my answer is: she shouldn’t be going to visit people who are shielding. You are only allowed to see people from another household if you are outside and keep distance (and the Chemo relative should not even go out). What does she think we’ve all been doing for all these weeks?! That’s right - NOT visiting the vulnerable. They are still on a 12 week shield (minimum). There is no point isolating for two weeks prior unless she lives in an isolated room with no contact from the other people. Otherwise, she could pick up the virus, maybe unknowing/unsymptomatic, and deliver it to Middlesbrough.
Others have sacrificed far more so I really don't complain. So don't you dare come here with your storm in a teacup nonsense. You have no idea of what others have been dealing with and how justifiably angry these double standards make people.
I'm sorry for your loss @Driftoftheseasons , and for the way that the birth of your daughter was changed by this situation. Congratulations too though!
The anger is increasing out there - the slap in the face of Johnson at al insinuating that all those who didn't break the rules somehow didn't have adequate parental instincts or love their families as much as Cummings did is a hard one to bear. And the many, many parents of ASD children who have struggled alone but succeeded in not putting others at risk are fuming too. Personally, it has made the grief of losing my brother and his dying alone, frightened and unable to breathe much, much worse. For those who live in their 'storm in a teacup' bubble of ignorant privilege, this will indeed be old news tomorrow. For those struggling, suffering or bereaved, the pain of that loss is acute and each time the knife twists we are reminded that Johnson, Cummings and pals asked us to do this and then accused us of being negligent by doing it. That's not old news.
'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
@Lizzie27 and @Shrinking Violet Please read the heartfelt posts on the previous page from @Driftoftheseasons and @LG_ . Then perhaps you might understand why this isn't just a storm in a teacup.
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
Others have sacrificed far more so I really don't complain. So don't you dare come here with your storm in a teacup nonsense. You have no idea of what others have been dealing with and how justifiably angry these double standards make people.
I'm sorry for your loss @Driftoftheseasons , and for the way that the birth of your daughter was changed by this situation. Congratulations too though!
The anger is increasing out there - the slap in the face of Johnson at al insinuating that all those who didn't break the rules somehow didn't have adequate parental instincts or love their families as much as Cummings did is a hard one to bear. And the many, many parents of ASD children who have struggled alone but succeeded in not putting others at risk are fuming too. Personally, it has made the grief of losing my brother and his dying alone, frightened and unable to breathe much, much worse. For those who live in their 'storm in a teacup' bubble of ignorant privilege, this will indeed be old news tomorrow. For those struggling, suffering or bereaved, the pain of that loss is acute and each time the knife twists we are reminded that Johnson, Cummings and pals asked us to do this and then accused us of being negligent by doing it. That's not old news.
LG_ My deepest condolences for your own loss. I know there are no words that can really console that sort of grief, but it's worth remembering that there is decency out there, and that the words and actions of one man and his cabal that have been able to con their way to the top of a government shouldn't detract from the fact that an awful lot of people, yourself included, have shown fortitude and resilience in suffering.
I've always tried to be measured and work hard to understand both sides. But those on here and elsewhere who are arguing this is a storm in a teacup are both indeed expressing this view from a position of 'ignorant privilege', and also showing an incredible lack of empathy or compassion for those who have made sacrifices to do the right thing. I don't want to turn this from the real issue here, but this self-centred way of seeing the world has played a role in getting us to the place we are today as a country.
I wouldn't be surprised if Boris has a chance of mind regards keeping Cummins........the feeling outrage, anger, hurt and betrayal are quite palpable and in my humble opinion deservedly so.......
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
And when the news re Cummings came out, people like BBC politics correspondant Laura Kuennsberg immediately leapt to provide cover.
If this is real... my answer is:
she shouldn’t be going to visit people who are shielding. You are only allowed to see people from another household if you are outside and keep distance (and the Chemo relative should not even go out).
What does she think we’ve all been doing for all these weeks?! That’s right - NOT visiting the vulnerable. They are still on a 12 week shield (minimum).
There is no point isolating for two weeks prior unless she lives in an isolated room with no contact from the other people. Otherwise, she could pick up the virus, maybe unknowing/unsymptomatic, and deliver it to Middlesbrough.
Please say this isn’t real now.
The anger is increasing out there - the slap in the face of Johnson at al insinuating that all those who didn't break the rules somehow didn't have adequate parental instincts or love their families as much as Cummings did is a hard one to bear. And the many, many parents of ASD children who have struggled alone but succeeded in not putting others at risk are fuming too. Personally, it has made the grief of losing my brother and his dying alone, frightened and unable to breathe much, much worse. For those who live in their 'storm in a teacup' bubble of ignorant privilege, this will indeed be old news tomorrow. For those struggling, suffering or bereaved, the pain of that loss is acute and each time the knife twists we are reminded that Johnson, Cummings and pals asked us to do this and then accused us of being negligent by doing it. That's not old news.
Love this one https://youtu.be/0na2Y_74_mk
Boo for Boris 8pm Tuesday. Spread the word.
Please read the heartfelt posts on the previous page from @Driftoftheseasons and @LG_ . Then perhaps you might understand why this isn't just a storm in a teacup.
http://chng.it/Dw6YtyG27Z
I've always tried to be measured and work hard to understand both sides. But those on here and elsewhere who are arguing this is a storm in a teacup are both indeed expressing this view from a position of 'ignorant privilege', and also showing an incredible lack of empathy or compassion for those who have made sacrifices to do the right thing. I don't want to turn this from the real issue here, but this self-centred way of seeing the world has played a role in getting us to the place we are today as a country.