Ive got summer song and I would it has nice blooms and a lovely smell but the issue I have with it is spindly growth and bad black spot! Also it’s not very shrub like so far!!
its still young for me tho so could improve and I still plan on keeping it even just for the flowers!!
Thanks. I am now leaning towards getting best pink, red, yellow roses and skipping the blue and some orange ones which I had in my list for only colour's sake... I can always get nice blue salvias, clematis and orange Dahlias.
The best plant supports I've bought have been from Harrod Horticultural. Their obelisks etc are very sturdy. I had 2 x 2m obelisks for a 60th birthday present. Not cheap but they look very stately all year round and they'll see me out...
The best performing pink rose in my garden is a DA Wisley 2008. Makes a nice shape to between 4 and 5 feet. Pretty pale pink, nicely shaped blooms, delicate but fairly strong scent, healthy and flowers non-stop from May until winter. I have cut blooms on Christmas Day.
Whereabouts in the country are you Newbie? The DA gardens in NW Midlands are well worth a visit in June. You can see so many roses all together. It's definitely the best way to see the true colours, growth habits and decide for yourself which ones are strongly scented. You'll probably also get to see which ones are prone to balling and blackspot is there's been rain shortly before your visit.
Peter Beales Classic Roses near Attleborough also replanted their rose garden about 3 or 4 years ago so that will be worth visiting next summer too.
Both gardens are free to visit and attached to the nurseries. Just make sure you take a notebook!
Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
Zepherine Drouhin has a fabulous scent and no thorns., I'd go with Salvia Amistad ( more purple than blue ) which will add some punch to the colour scheme
Zephirine Drouhin is a lovely rose but prone to blackspot.
Having a no-spray garden can be challenging, you need to decide how important the health (or a healthy look) of your roses is for you and how much are you willing to compromise on this. I grow roses which blackspots badly in my garden (no-spray) but I grow them for different qualities (usually fragrance). I also have roses which stay perfectly healthy.
I will plan visit to DA and peter beales gardens next summer. I want to go to Sissinghurst too.
My garden is in London Suburb, faces southwest and heavy clay. I havent tested soil but it has large healthy camelias and Fuschias.
I dont mind spraying but i dont have time. I can live with some BS as long as the plant doesnt turn into bare monsterous sticks i see on some front gardens!
..most people who grow The Pilgrim seem to like it.... I wouldn't recommend Zephirine Drouhin to anyone personally these days, I think it's only for collectors of roses... yes it has a fabulously long and exuberant main flush... from mid May to the end of June and onto the end of July... then it blackspots, mildews and generally defoliates, with scattered later blooms going on into late autumn.. I have a few out now... yet people still put it on arches which are usually focal points in a garden.... I would want something that retains good clean glossy foliage when not in flower, and that isn't this rose..
..it's also not really a climber, it's a large arching shrub which is usually trained in climbing form.... the term, thornless climbing rose, is an oxymoron, and somewhat unnatural for a rose as thorns are essential for climbing... I find even the scent is overrated.... much better roses for arches, climbing and scent... but.... after you've had it 5 or 6 years - because it can take that long - it puts on a great show for that 8 weeks or so..
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Also it’s not very shrub like so far!!
its still young for me tho so could improve and I still plan on keeping it even just for the flowers!!
How are Pilgrim (DA rose) and Zephirine Drouhin?
The best performing pink rose in my garden is a DA Wisley 2008. Makes a nice shape to between 4 and 5 feet. Pretty pale pink, nicely shaped blooms, delicate but fairly strong scent, healthy and flowers non-stop from May until winter. I have cut blooms on Christmas Day.
Whereabouts in the country are you Newbie? The DA gardens in NW Midlands are well worth a visit in June. You can see so many roses all together. It's definitely the best way to see the true colours, growth habits and decide for yourself which ones are strongly scented. You'll probably also get to see which ones are prone to balling and blackspot is there's been rain shortly before your visit.
Peter Beales Classic Roses near Attleborough also replanted their rose garden about 3 or 4 years ago so that will be worth visiting next summer too.
Both gardens are free to visit and attached to the nurseries. Just make sure you take a notebook!
I'd go with Salvia Amistad ( more purple than blue ) which will add some punch to the colour scheme
My garden is in London Suburb, faces southwest and heavy clay. I havent tested soil but it has large healthy camelias and Fuschias.
I dont mind spraying but i dont have time. I can live with some BS as long as the plant doesnt turn into bare monsterous sticks i see on some front gardens!
I like Zephirine Drouhin and pilgrim photos.
..it's also not really a climber, it's a large arching shrub which is usually trained in climbing form.... the term, thornless climbing rose, is an oxymoron, and somewhat unnatural for a rose as thorns are essential for climbing... I find even the scent is overrated.... much better roses for arches, climbing and scent... but.... after you've had it 5 or 6 years - because it can take that long - it puts on a great show for that 8 weeks or so..