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Grammar, speling and punkchooation pedants

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  • Obelixx said:
      They too signed up for French classes but fund it unfathomable because, if you can't tell a direct object from an indirect object it's impossible to do the agreements with past participles which is basic to French grammar.  They never even got as far as the subjunctive before they gave up.
    The French have no difficulty learning the grammatical rules of their language, and so do we. When you learn a language naturally you learn what is correct and what isn't, even though you cannot actually put those rules into words, which you do not need to be able to do. That is why I think languages should be taught naturally, not by learning a lot of rules.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    It is interesting to see how two and tree year olds apply the rules of grammar before they know the exceptions.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • pansyface said:
    Spelling? 
    There’s a tiny place near here with two official road signs, one at either end of the village. At one end, it’s Youlgrave. At the other it’s Youlegreave. In another village there’s a signpost directing you to Youlgreave.

    And here are yet more variations, found in old books.

    YOULGRAVE or YOULGREAVE ?


    GiolgraveYolgrave Jalgrave
    HyolgraveHyolegraveYolgreff
    YolegYolegreveYolegrave
    YoulgraueWelegreveYoelgreve
    Oelereve YelegreveYeolegreve
    YolgreaveYolgreveYollegreve
    Jol'veZolgrelfYollgreve
    YollgreweYollegreweYoulgreve
    Youlgrave (1492)ZolgreffYolgreyva
    YolgreyveYeolgreaveYoulgreave (1595)
    YellegraveYollogreveYollograve
    YeollgreaveYouldgreaveYograve
    IsgraveYalgroveYolegreue
    Jolegreue IolegraveJholegreve
    YelegraveYellegraveIolgrave
    YholgreveYelgreveZolgreve

    But it‘s all a waste of time as the locals call it Pommy.




    This made me laugh. I used to live in Norfolk which has its fair share of locally pronounced villages, but up here in Aberdeenshire it's on another level. There's a small town near here called Aberchirder, variously pronounced with a hard ch, a soft ch, or an h sound with no indication of the c in the middle. But it makes no difference how you say the ch because the locals call it Foggie! 

    When out and about we now tend to see longish village names and simply decide the local pronunciation is probably Bob
    No longer newish but can't think of a new name so will remain forever newish.  B) 

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Sorry Alan Clark but I have seen some horrendous written grammar and sentence structure from native French speakers, usually younger, who have clearly not benefitted from French language education.   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Benefitted! Grrr.
    Rutland, England
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    I apologise and take it back, Obelixx. It seems benefitted it is the accepted UK spelling and benefited is American but I follow the rule that where the stress occurs at the front of the word, such as with benefit or abandon, the final consonant should not be doubled in forming the past participle. Seems I am wrong! Off now to search for humble pie.
    Rutland, England
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    I have just been delving a bit deeper and the issue is far from clear cut. The Guardian/Observer style manual favours benefited. 
    Rutland, England
  • AuntyRachAuntyRach Posts: 5,291

    My garden and I live in South Wales. 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Picidae - don't worry.  I had to write "committee" today and, after the French from "comité" it looked cumbersome and I had to check the spelling.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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