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...Notes from a Rose garden...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited May 2019
    @valerieroberts
    Yes Valerie, this is no problem... you should seek out any [or preferably ALL] of these..

    'Prince Jardinier'....  'Rachel'... 'Chandos Beauty'...

    ...I have one, and I hope to get the other two later...

    ...oh, and thanks Jason...  nice to see you again..
    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Just catching up with this wonderful thread, thank you so much for sharing your garden, your roses and your experience, Marlorena!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Marlorena, could you explain something to me because I'm totally confused😕?
    Why is it ok to plant a new rose near an established rose?
     I understand why you mustn't plant too close to where you've pulled one out of an old one has died.
    Thanks in advance😊
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited May 2019
    ...thanks again Nollie.. and for looking in here..

    @B3 ...well, it depends of course, how long the established rose has been there..I think it was Fire who asked if she could plant a rose in front of another one... I do that, but I try to plant about 3 foot from the established rose... I wouldn't want to get any closer because by digging you can damage the roots of the other rose, which isn't a problem during the winter too much, but not right now.. and the  new rose probably won't thrive any closer than that..
    A 3 foot gap is usually ok I have found.. it shouldn't be affected by rose replant disease either... that tends to occur when you plant directly into the same hole as an old rose you have taken out... although in some cases with that, it can spread further and you need a wider berth... but using mycorrhizal fungi helps out there.. it's the only time I use it..




    East Anglia, England
  • guttiesgutties Posts: 224
    I see that Anthemis Tinctoria EC Buxton as modeled by @Marlorena above can be bought for £2.49 from The Secret Garden Club
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    Thanks, Marlorena, I am looking forward to seeing this border later when all is flowering.
    I have to look into verbascums, I only know the tall yellow (wild?) variety but both the white one and purple one are lovely.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited May 2019
    Thanks @Marlorena. It was fire's question that prompted me to ask😊
    I have some roses in pots and containers that could do with going in the ground and I was leery about doing it in case I lost them. I've been putting it off for a couple of years now.
    Both myself and the roses are very grateful for your advice. Thank you.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    @B3 there were some long discussions of this question last year - the pros and cons of planting in the spot of another old rose. The conclusion seemed to be that it's a bit of a myth. If you prepare the the ground properly you should be fine.

    I have put a Crimson Glory in the spot of Golden Showers (such an unfortunate name). The new rose is utterly miserable, despite removing a lot of earth before planting and adding manure. But it's a tricky spot under a planter, beside a fence, so it might be that. It might be a few years before it settles.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I want to do for my golden showers too. It's a waste of space. I was fooled by the name and saw it recommended somewhere. Unfortunately, I remembered the name and bought it. It's healthy enough but there are so many better ones. I cut it right back last year, so this is it's last chance to live up to its name.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    A complete waste of space.
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