@Marlorena@Hampshire_Hog thank you both for your advice can you please advise when would be the best time to move it and how as it will be in the way of a new tennis court to be built in spring 2020
I wish people every luck with identifying roses. As there are tens of thousands of varieties, the task is almost impossible. Our last garden had about 80 and I could only recognise and identify perhaps five at the most. Our 'new' garden does have a rose I was successful identifying, and that's Climbing Iceberg, which I have since trained using the Sissinghurst System. I large post 10ft apart with horizontal wires. The rose is then tied to the wires after bending the stems in arcs. The stress caused to the rose ensures that plenty of shoots are formed.
...thousands of roses, yes, but you can usually whittle it down to just 2 or 3... but as always the case, more photos are usually required because one needs to see the rose from various aspects, including obscure things like stipules and styles... the rose in the photos looks like one of the hybrid multiflora ramblers of the Veilchenblau type... of which there are only a few.. Veilchenblau, which I don't think it is, and the only other 2 similar are 'Bleu Magenta' and 'Rose-Marie Viaud'... it also helps to know the provenance of the rose, and usually old ones like these have usually come from Peter Beales… knowing their inventory, past and present, helps...
...I think I'm now siding with Hampshire Hogg in that it's Bleu Magenta, because there's a lot of sun in the photos, and I'm going to assume the pink is in reality more purple.. I can see some darker blooms there in shadier light... so I would say 'Bleu Magenta' for your rose unless those blooms are really pink... the foliage and lack of thorns, which is why I asked about that... also suggest 'BM'...
..I grew both these roses in the same garden at the same time.. 'BM' starts about a week earlier than 'Rose Marie Viaud'.. neither of them repeat flower and neither have any scent to speak of..
Philomena wanted to know about moving the rose... well, sometimes these old roses don't take kindly to that, but if needs must, if you could wait until October that would be best... you would need to cut the whole lot down to a manageable size, I like to leave about 4 foot or so, and try as best you can to remove it and replant... I can't explain detail for detail, but nearer the day perhaps you could ask again about it, ..I'm sure there are plenty of other people here familiar with moving roses... best of luck, enjoy your summer with roses...
@ Marlorena they are more purple and very little scent but the bees seemed to like them you could hear them buzzing but not see as they diapered into each flower then came out again.
October will be fine I will get the ground workers to carefully dig it out with the digger with as large root ball possible we already moved lots of shrubs that were close to the house and put them in a trench away from the work area most look like they have survived. Not sure how many we will be using in the new planting but any that don't actually go into the garden scheme will be found a home somewhere around.
They started work dredging the old pond in the woods today after spending yesterday hunting out frogs, toads and newts all been moved to a safe area and will be returned once the work is complete Natural England are being a great help with this.
gosh.. you've got a lot on there but getting good help it seems... best of luck moving your rose.. they rarely come up with a rootball, most of it falls away.. but just do your best.. it'll be approaching dormant season... purple blooms = 'Bleu Magenta'.. thank Hampshire Hogg for that one...
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Many thanks PK
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
...I think I'm now siding with Hampshire Hogg in that it's Bleu Magenta, because there's a lot of sun in the photos, and I'm going to assume the pink is in reality more purple.. I can see some darker blooms there in shadier light... so I would say 'Bleu Magenta' for your rose unless those blooms are really pink... the foliage and lack of thorns, which is why I asked about that... also suggest 'BM'...
..I grew both these roses in the same garden at the same time.. 'BM' starts about a week earlier than 'Rose Marie Viaud'.. neither of them repeat flower and neither have any scent to speak of..
October will be fine I will get the ground workers to carefully dig it out with the digger with as large root ball possible we already moved lots of shrubs that were close to the house and put them in a trench away from the work area most look like they have survived.
Not sure how many we will be using in the new planting but any that don't actually go into the garden scheme will be found a home somewhere around.
They started work dredging the old pond in the woods today after spending yesterday hunting out frogs, toads and newts all been moved to a safe area and will be returned once the work is complete Natural England are being a great help with this.
Photos from them today.
purple blooms = 'Bleu Magenta'.. thank Hampshire Hogg for that one...