Please note, the problems arise form any product containing glyphosate. Round-up was just the first one and yes, Monsanto has, at the very least, been economical with the truth about its dangers.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Debs, you won't get a straight answer on this forum. The members all hate weedkillers and come out with comments like these, emotive and strongly against.
The court case is far from over and was not concluded with evidence, just political pressure.
I have never used it but have a large garden bed heavily infested with bindweed so was thinking about it but now I think I will stick to thick black plastic and bark mulch over the top there is no rush and I would hate to harm wildlife I would never use an insecticide but thought an occasional use of weedkiller was harmless to anything but plants! You live and learn!
Debs, you won't get a straight answer on this forum. The members all hate weedkillers and come out with comments like these, emotive and strongly against.
That is just not true @glasgowdan ... I and several others have, on quite a few occasions, suggested the targeted use of glyphosate to deal with difficult weeds such as bindweed and bramble.
What I have said is that I wouldn’t use glyphosate when straightforward manual means of removal are an option, and I have also expressed concern at the use of widespread application of glyphosate as a desiccant on ripening crops of grain and oilseed rape.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
There are very many 20th century examples of products being sold as safe - even good for you - by manufacturers who swore black was white that their merchandise had been tested and 'proved to be completely safe'. Until eventually it was found not to be: tobacco, artificial sweeteners, margarine, aerosols, plastic water bottles. CFCs are a case in point - they weren't much of a risk to your skin - on which they had been tested - but they were destroying the sky. Glyphosate may not directly cause cancer - the jury is still out - but what harm are they doing to the soil eco-system? 'Proven to be harmless' is not the same as 'we haven't looked to see if it's a problem' but companies like Monsanto blur that distinction all the time.
Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
I do think it's very odd that in that link a science-based business such as Monsanto refers to a herbicide as a pesticide ... no wonder people get confused
"Monsanto did not respond to a request for comment. But in a 43-page report, the company says the safety of its herbicides is supported by “one of the most extensive worldwide human health and environmental databases ever compiled for a pesticide product”.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Debs, you won't get a straight answer on this forum. The members all hate weedkillers and come out with comments like these, emotive and strongly against.
That is just not true @glasgowdan ... I and several others have, on quite a few occasions, suggested the targeted use of glyphosate to deal with difficult weeds such as bindweed and bramble.
What I have said is that I wouldn’t use glyphosate when straightforward manual means of removal are an option, and I have also expressed concern at the use of widespread application of glyphosate as a desiccant on ripening crops of grain and oilseed rape.
You and I are of the same opinion then, and are in the minority on this forum. I do use it all the time on gardens, gravel, block paving, kerbs, and other hard areas as it's the only practical and efficient way for me to make money and produce a good result that my clients are happy with.
What bothers me is when a question is asked, and you get replies blurting out nonsense as fact. Not from yourself.
Debs, you won't get a straight answer on this forum. The members all hate weedkillers and come out with comments like these, emotive and strongly against.
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The court case is far from over and was not concluded with evidence, just political pressure.
What I have said is that I wouldn’t use glyphosate when straightforward manual means of removal are an option, and I have also expressed concern at the use of widespread application of glyphosate as a desiccant on ripening crops of grain and oilseed rape.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
I do think it's very odd that in that link a science-based business such as Monsanto refers to a herbicide as a pesticide ... no wonder people get confused
"Monsanto did not respond to a request for comment. But in a 43-page report, the company says the safety of its herbicides is supported by “one of the most extensive worldwide human health and environmental databases ever compiled for a pesticide product”.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
What bothers me is when a question is asked, and you get replies blurting out nonsense as fact. Not from yourself.