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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    @Fire @Allotment Boy @Obelixx and it's not even happened yet. 
    "Project Fear" is as much ,and as valid, a cry as Tango Faced Trump screaming " Fake News" when HE hears something HE doesn't like.
    Devon.
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    edited August 2018
    Obelixx said:
    Not getting started on Brexit.  It's way beyond curmudgeonly territory.

     Agreed. There's minor irritations, 'back in my day' moans, general laments at the state of the world... and then there's Brexit.
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I instinctively disagree with everything Jacob Rees-Mogg says.
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited August 2018
    it's just the same as if The Donald put his fingers in his ears and yelled la la la  :'(

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Trump and Brexit really has changed my opinion of humanity's capacity for rational thought. I believed the species were smarter than this. As it turns out, we are comprehensively screwed. I really thought that the population would wake up to its global predicament. A some point. When things got bad enough. But no. It's never a question of having enough evidence. You have to be interested and committed to reasoning to attend to an evidence base.
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Fire said:
    I really thought that the population would wake up to its global predicament. A some point. When things got bad enough. But no. It's never a question of having enough evidence. You have to be interested and committed to reasoning to attend to an evidence base.
    Easter Island gets cited every time this is raised I know and I try to believe it isn't true but it happens time and time again in humanity's history. The extinction of the passenger pigeon being repeated in the treatment of the turtle dove is a prime example.

    I see glimmers of hope now and then though. The taste for shark fin soup in Asia has been hugely reduced just due to awareness campaigns for example. Some people actually though the fins grew back and others didn't even know the soup was made from shark fins. It does tend to be 2 steps forward one step back all the time though.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I know this discussion goes beyond curmudgeonliness, but I believe we are just not smart enough as a species to learn to steward the planet in time. The species has not shown much evidence of ever being much interested in stewarding for the future and it isn't really starting now. The maths of learning v time just doesn't add up. I'm not so much sad for humanity as all the other species that go down at our behest. And I'm sad the that it's a preventable outcome that won't be prevented. The human mind isn't up to it.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Never mind disagree with JRM., I have this urge to punch him, whenever I see him, or hear his voice.
    His poor wife and kids.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    There have been some peoples who understand the relationship between environment and people and sustainability but they have generally been subsumed/wiped out/marginalised by more "advanced" cultures - Australian aboriginals, Bushmen in the southern Africa, American Indians and no doubt hitherto remote South American Indians are next.

    Progress? 
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    "There have been some peoples who understand the relationship between environment and people and sustainability".

    Arguably. I think there is a great tendency to romanticise these peoples as having perfect insight and care.
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