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Hello Forkers! April 2018

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I hope your plants enjoy the extra light too Joyce.

    Dove - I can't help thinking that if a artist needs to explain their intentions they've missed the point.   I like plenty of "simple" art that is soothing/stimulating/joyful but also like complicated things I can look at again and again and find something new.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    It's the whole 'if you don't like it that's just because you don't understand it' thing that irritates me. There's a great deal of art - especially sculpture - that I don't understand at all, but I still like it. There are quite a few Japanese architects whose work I really admire, but I have no true understanding of it. My response to art is personal, usually emotional, rarely cerebral. Does that make me 'wrong'? Or just missing a level of the artist's intention? I can live with the latter, the former seems snobbish to me. I can distinguish between not liking something and not understanding it. There's actually not much of an overlap between them.

    I don't mind being told that an artist's work is emotional. I dislike being told which emotion I'm supposed to feel when I see it - that's a matter for me, surely?

    I dunno. I just quietly go to art galleries and think what I think. I feel like the gushing is intended to push the price up, so it niggles. But then I could never afford to buy stuff in a gallery so there's no real reason it should.  :)
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited April 2018
    Obelixx ... as I said ... there's different sorts of art ... some are more accessible than others ... if you didn't get my poetry analogy what about music ... an ear accustomed to western pentatonic scale type music will not get as much out of Asian music as someone who is accustomed to the different tonal qualities used. 

    You, as someone who knows more about dance than I do will get much more out of watching Strictly than I do ... I can see if someone is out of sync with their partner, or heavy footed or whatever, but as for the finer points ...... over my head. 

    Some art is purely decorative ... some art is academic ... some is both and there's a lot that is in between.  

    Explanations are for people who haven't experienced the work and/or haven't familiarised themselves with the language being used.  If people aren't interested in it that's fine ... but why do some people then denigrate what they've not wanted to find out more about?

     :) 



    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    Just to be clear, in case you're not, I don't denigrate art I don't like. I wouldn't say 'it's not art'. I just say 'I don't like it'. That's fair enough, isn't it? I'd say the same with music, too. Music is still music, even if I don't want to listen to it.

    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • flumpy1flumpy1 Posts: 3,117
    Hosta got to say I love the llama soooo cute 🤗
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Just to be clear, in case you're not, I don't denigrate art I don't like. I wouldn't say 'it's not art'. I just say 'I don't like it'. That's fair enough, isn't it? I'd say the same with music, too. Music is still music, even if I don't want to listen to it.

    Absolutely R'girl  :) 

    But you'd be surprised at how many people do, and get quite irate about it, defending their right to criticise something they've chosen not to inform themselves about.
    Two of the currently best loved British painters are Constable and Munnings ... whose work was denigrated as rubbish by many people for a large part of their careers because they didn't follow the orthodox style of the time ... and then there's van Gogh of course ...  :/

    I've been told that Picasso painted the way he did '... because he couldn't draw ...' ... but if my avatar isn't exceptional drawing then I don't know what is. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,066
    Hi folks,  Thanks for all your good wishes re Wednesday.  I'm afraid I don't have much faith in justice as the law often prevails and they are definitely not the same thing.

    I'm an impressionist girl myself, especially Degas love his paintings and his sculpture. 

    Have just got back from a 100 round trip to return the wheelchair.  Note to self, don't order anything off the internet if their isn't a good returns policy.

    Off to see mum in a minute then nothing planned for the rest of the day.


    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Yvie ... when Ma was in The Lovely Home, the OT was able to assess for equipment, even tho' she/we had to fund it ... the GP can make a referral to the OT if you explain the problem. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Pat EPat E Posts: 12,316
    Are you sure it’s a llama? Looks like an Alpaca to me. 😄
    Anyway, whatever it is, it’s a cutie. 
    I wont join the discussion about art.
    I had a good Ukelele session today. We are concentrating on the Island rhythm strum. Down, down up, and up down up. Or D, DU, UDU. Talk about tricky, and that’s without getting the correct fingering for the chords. Very tired😴
    Bed time here. 
    Catch you all tomorrow.

    S. E. NSW
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    edited April 2018
    Pat, I thought it was an alapaca, but I'm no expert. Cute he most certainly is.
    Just in from work.
    Naviagtion system got me 7 miles away from the customer, sat nav got me closer.No answer on phone.  I ended up in a care home and asked them. They googled it and found it's up for sale so they printed the details ( including directions ) for me. 
    Got to the house " oh that number was disconnected 3 years ago".  grrrr
    Oh, I didn't get "the shortest route" as promised, I had the longest one.
    I'm having a cuppa then off to cut some grass.
    Devon.
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