To relieve yourself of the situation, why don't you just grow it in the pot as you originally intended and see how it goes from there. It'll be alright for a couple of seasons perhaps more, but not in the longer term. I know member 'Busy Lizzie' who lives in France, has ramblers and climbers in large pots and they always look nice in her photos. You can then sort something out later on maybe, rather than give it away right now..
Incidentally, this rose is very suitable for a shady north wall. I've grown it that way and it's often recommended for this position. It just takes longer to get into a blooming rhythm in my experience but there's no need to worry about that aspect. Lots of roses will grow perfectly well on shady north walls..
Hi Marlorena, thanks for your advice. I think this may be the way I'm leaning, to be honest. I am having a look this weekend to make a final decision after seeing about digging down the side of the North facing wall, removing a slab out front and also assessing how big a pot I can a) find, and, b) fit out front on the west facing wall. I did think about giving it away but it just looks so incredible in all the pictures and I think I'd rather keep it and have it look amazing over the front of the house for just a couple of years, rather than not have it at all. I think I'd get at least 2-3 years out of it before it started to suffer because it's only young now.
R. 'Madame Alfred Carrière' can grow into a huge tree. Not at all suited for your narrow path as seen on the photo you posted. I suggest you give up the idea of planting / potting it there.
I planted 2 Madame Alfred Carriere roses in large containers, trained against a south facing wall of a barn in February 2014.
They bloomed just once in 2014/5/6 but did not repeat bloom. They are all out at the moment so it remains to be seen if they will bloom after this initial flowering.
I was a little disappointed to note that the flower heads seem to droop as if the stems are unable to bear the weight of the individual blossoms. I would be grateful if anyone could tell me if they have had this occur and if it might be something is amiss with my planting them. If they don't repeat flower this year,
Mme Alfred Carrière rose-trees are definitely not suited to be planted in containers, however large. As mentioned before in this discussion, they are HUGE trees and need soil and lots of space. Their flowering can be erratic. My specimen was planted in 2015. It flowered all through the autumn and winter (a mild winter). Then it flowered just a little in 2016. This year it started flowering a month ago and is now covered in flowers and buds. The attached pic shows its height (well over the 2m high fence).
Yes, the flower heads tend to droop, as the stems are on the thin side. Lovely scent, so they are forgiven.
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To relieve yourself of the situation, why don't you just grow it in the pot as you originally intended and see how it goes from there. It'll be alright for a couple of seasons perhaps more, but not in the longer term. I know member 'Busy Lizzie' who lives in France, has ramblers and climbers in large pots and they always look nice in her photos. You can then sort something out later on maybe, rather than give it away right now..
Incidentally, this rose is very suitable for a shady north wall. I've grown it that way and it's often recommended for this position. It just takes longer to get into a blooming rhythm in my experience but there's no need to worry about that aspect. Lots of roses will grow perfectly well on shady north walls..
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Hi Marlorena, thanks for your advice. I think this may be the way I'm leaning, to be honest. I am having a look this weekend to make a final decision after seeing about digging down the side of the North facing wall, removing a slab out front and also assessing how big a pot I can a) find, and, b) fit out front on the west facing wall. I did think about giving it away but it just looks so incredible in all the pictures and I think I'd rather keep it and have it look amazing over the front of the house for just a couple of years, rather than not have it at all. I think I'd get at least 2-3 years out of it before it started to suffer because it's only young now.
Hi Jadey,
R. 'Madame Alfred Carrière' can grow into a huge tree. Not at all suited for your narrow path as seen on the photo you posted. I suggest you give up the idea of planting / potting it there.
I planted 2 Madame Alfred Carriere roses in large containers, trained against a south facing wall of a barn in February 2014.
They bloomed just once in 2014/5/6 but did not repeat bloom. They are all out at the moment so it remains to be seen if they will bloom after this initial flowering.
I was a little disappointed to note that the flower heads seem to droop as if the stems are unable to bear the weight of the individual blossoms. I would be grateful if anyone could tell me if they have had this occur and if it might be something is amiss with my planting them. If they don't repeat flower this year,
I plan to replace them with an alternative rose.
@soays,
Mme Alfred Carrière rose-trees are definitely not suited to be planted in containers, however large. As mentioned before in this discussion, they are HUGE trees and need soil and lots of space. Their flowering can be erratic. My specimen was planted in 2015. It flowered all through the autumn and winter (a mild winter). Then it flowered just a little in 2016. This year it started flowering a month ago and is now covered in flowers and buds. The attached pic shows its height (well over the 2m high fence).
Yes, the flower heads tend to droop, as the stems are on the thin side. Lovely scent, so they are forgiven.