I'm not really looking for something to go there specifically, I just want to put my MAC somewhere where it will have enough room to grow but it's proving impossible. I really don't want to get rid of it because it was a gift
I wasn't going to use a pot. I was thinking of digging down in to the path where I've put a red X. It's just gravel there so I could remove the gravel, dig out the concrete or whatever is under the gravel and back fill with potting mix before planting her. I know that wall is too shady but the front of the house get's plenty of afternoon sun. What I'm wondering is whether I can plant her there but train her along wires diagonally and horizontally straight forward towards the front of the house (west facing wall) and then try and cover the front of the house with her. I accept the bit on the side of the house might not do so well (no or very few flowers) but will it survive? And will the vines that are trained along the front of the house and do get sunshine produce flowers... Any ideas? (Sorry if not explaining very well!)
She'll throw up great long new shoots from the base and that's a pretty narrow path. I feel you might live to regret such a vigourous , thorny plant there.
i think you would struggle to get it actually planted there because if the space, you could lever up one slab, dig a really nice deep hole with lots of manure dug in etc but if you replaced the slab i think your problem would be it getting enough rain water because of the gutters and overhanging roof plus it is next to a wall which will draw water off. i also have one planted on a NE wall and it is growing fine, it would wuickly make it's way around 8ft of wall to the front but if you have to take up one slab i would do it at the front to begin with as if you don't keep it in check it will be hard to get past as it does grow really quickly, although it is mainly thornless. heres the pics, my gardening crocks are a size 6 just to give you some perspective of the size of hole, it is deep though. the vertical branch, i am snaking up the house so that i get flowers all the way up in an 's' shape. the lower branches are about 10 inches from the bricks to get flowers from the bottom of the house to the top, if you need any help just ask
Really? Okay, so not there either. Oh dear... you may be right Pansyface. It was a really sweet gift because I had just planted my very first roses at the time (last year) and a friend bought it for me after hearing it was such a well loved and famous rose... problem is she didn't really think about how big it gets.
I do also have space on my lawn but would need to build a big pergola to take up a whole section of lawn and I think I'm now creating bigger problems for myself in trying to accommodate her... Maybe I will have to give her away
Oops, posted that before the page updated. Wow guys, your pics look great! I love the 'S' shape, that's so cool! And wow, what a small little space you've got her in. That actually looks really fab and yet allows her all the room she needs above and below ground. I might take a closer look at the weekend to see whether it's possible. Have you lined it with hessian sack?
Pansyface, your garden is gorgeous, so much going on!!!
no i didn't line the whole hole with the sack, just the top of the hole to hide the cut brick edges, it only goes down about 8 inches, i planted that about 8 weeks ago!!
no it has grown that much! keep the ones you want to train to go somewhere long and then get them as horizontal as poss, hence the 's' shape going up, then all the flowering stems will grow vertically from these horizontals, if the 's' shape one was just trained straight up the house (vertically) i would only get flowers at the top, this way i will get flowering stems growing all along the 's' shape. With the ones growing along bottom of house, these will throw up the flowering shoots from the horizontals so you get flowers all the way along, does that make sense? it is to do with a chemical that makes for the end of canes so it can flower, if the cane is horizontal then the chemical is along along the cane telling the rose to flower where the chemical is.
Wow, that's some impressive growth then! Yeah, I've heard that about training the stems horizontally, that's another reason why I wanted to move her, she can only go up (or very slightly round and up) where she is now and I thought at the front she could go up and then across (over the front door and under the upstairs windows, etc). I think yours will look lovely next year when it's had chance to fill up the space under your windows
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I'm not really looking for something to go there specifically, I just want to put my MAC somewhere where it will have enough room to grow but it's proving impossible. I really don't want to get rid of it because it was a gift
I wasn't going to use a pot. I was thinking of digging down in to the path where I've put a red X. It's just gravel there so I could remove the gravel, dig out the concrete or whatever is under the gravel and back fill with potting mix before planting her. I know that wall is too shady but the front of the house get's plenty of afternoon sun. What I'm wondering is whether I can plant her there but train her along wires diagonally and horizontally straight forward towards the front of the house (west facing wall) and then try and cover the front of the house with her. I accept the bit on the side of the house might not do so well (no or very few flowers) but will it survive? And will the vines that are trained along the front of the house and do get sunshine produce flowers... Any ideas? (Sorry if not explaining very well!)
I'd not plant her there, sorry.
She'll throw up great long new shoots from the base and that's a pretty narrow path. I feel you might live to regret such a vigourous , thorny plant there.
i think you would struggle to get it actually planted there because if the space, you could lever up one slab, dig a really nice deep hole with lots of manure dug in etc but if you replaced the slab i think your problem would be it getting enough rain water because of the gutters and overhanging roof plus it is next to a wall which will draw water off. i also have one planted on a NE wall and it is growing fine, it would wuickly make it's way around 8ft of wall to the front but if you have to take up one slab i would do it at the front to begin with as if you don't keep it in check it will be hard to get past as it does grow really quickly, although it is mainly thornless. heres the pics, my gardening crocks are a size 6 just to give you some perspective of the size of hole, it is deep though. the vertical branch, i am snaking up the house so that i get flowers all the way up in an 's' shape. the lower branches are about 10 inches from the bricks to get flowers from the bottom of the house to the top, if you need any help just ask
Really? Okay, so not there either. Oh dear... you may be right Pansyface. It was a really sweet gift because I had just planted my very first roses at the time (last year) and a friend bought it for me after hearing it was such a well loved and famous rose... problem is she didn't really think about how big it gets.
I do also have space on my lawn but would need to build a big pergola to take up a whole section of lawn and I think I'm now creating bigger problems for myself in trying to accommodate her... Maybe I will have to give her away
Oops, posted that before the page updated. Wow guys, your pics look great! I love the 'S' shape, that's so cool! And wow, what a small little space you've got her in. That actually looks really fab and yet allows her all the room she needs above and below ground. I might take a closer look at the weekend to see whether it's possible. Have you lined it with hessian sack?
Pansyface, your garden is gorgeous, so much going on!!!
Last edited: 18 October 2016 10:58:14
did you see the photos above pansyfaces post jadey? you wouldn't have to make a huge hole to have it on the front of the house
hahaha jinx post
Last edited: 18 October 2016 10:59:13
no i didn't line the whole hole with the sack, just the top of the hole to hide the cut brick edges, it only goes down about 8 inches, i planted that about 8 weeks ago!!
Last edited: 18 October 2016 11:01:43
8 weeks ago??? Did you keep the vines long on it before moving it or has it grown that much in 8 weeks???
no it has grown that much! keep the ones you want to train to go somewhere long and then get them as horizontal as poss, hence the 's' shape going up, then all the flowering stems will grow vertically from these horizontals, if the 's' shape one was just trained straight up the house (vertically) i would only get flowers at the top, this way i will get flowering stems growing all along the 's' shape. With the ones growing along bottom of house, these will throw up the flowering shoots from the horizontals so you get flowers all the way along, does that make sense? it is to do with a chemical that makes for the end of canes so it can flower, if the cane is horizontal then the chemical is along along the cane telling the rose to flower where the chemical is.
Last edited: 18 October 2016 11:14:39
Wow, that's some impressive growth then! Yeah, I've heard that about training the stems horizontally, that's another reason why I wanted to move her, she can only go up (or very slightly round and up) where she is now and I thought at the front she could go up and then across (over the front door and under the upstairs windows, etc). I think yours will look lovely next year when it's had chance to fill up the space under your windows