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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340

    hmmm - to kill or not to kill image


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,145
    punkdoc says:

    I may be wrong, but my understanding, gleaned I think from the British Ladybird people, is that you should not kill Harlequins, as they are very good at killing a number of pests, and in larger quantities than native ladybirds.

    I believe there is also evidence, that the native species is fighting back against the alien.

    See original post

     You're not wrong P'doc - best advice from naturalists and the RHS is not to kill Harlequins - they are well established here and we will not be able to wipe them out.  Their appearance varies widely as do the many varieties of UK native ladybirds, and there is a strong likelihood that people may destroy natives by mistake.  

    Also, if UK natives do decline in number, we will need the Harlequins otherwise the aphids will take over! image

    I don't know if others have noticed this, but over the past few years I've seen UK native ladybirds sunbathing in the garden in the spring whereas the Harlequins don't come out of hibernation until the weather is consistently much warmer - maybe there's a niche for both?  


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340

    There's no doubt about the one I saw and the link that StillLearning provided shows the difference. A couple do look similar to our native species.

    Hopefully I'll not spot one again and I'll be spared the dilemma


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,145

    Look at the pictures here http://www.joyofplants.com/wildlife/search.php?o=1188  

    All so different image


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • treehugger80treehugger80 Posts: 1,923

    easiest way to tell the difference, harlequins have brown legs, all our native have black legs

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,145

     image Apparently it's not quite that simple - according to the Harlequin Ladybird Survey almost all the Harlequins have brown legs

    http://www.harlequin-survey.org/recognition_and_distinction.htm 

    And without my glasses and one of each to compare, black or brown???  image  And colour is my job ... 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889

    I don't kill the harlequins either. I'm unconvinced by the evidence to date, but will keep an open mind. Etymological xenophobia.?

    I thought the way to tell them apart was that our native types have symmetrical spots, but harlequins don't? Might well be yet another piece of misinformation.

    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889

    Sorry Sheps, I meant to say those are cracking photos given the little critters are so small. Well done you.

    Devon.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039

    Bloody foreigners!!image

    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
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