..ok...that should be alright Wakeshine, I don't see too many problems there, it's a nice open site... also just use tap water. You can use your hose but in my experience, an amount equivalent to a full watering can will do, each day, regardless of any rain you get... for about 2 weeks or so until you see signs of picking up... right now, things can dry up pretty quick...and it's almost impossible to over water a rose at this time of year...
...the rose in the photo is not mine, I don't grow it, I took it in a rose field near me... so it's not getting the kind of cultivation we would normally give it... they prune them right down in Spring and lift in winter for selling.. I thought it looked quite good considering...
..enjoy your rose, it's one I should like to have.. oh and by the way, if you want to liquid feed when you see the rose growing again, liquid tomato fertilizer mixed in the watering can, will do fine...I use 'Tomorite'...it also helps with buds not opening properly [balling]... but most of my roses are established now and I don't use supplemental irrigation except on new plantings... other gardeners may differ...
Thank you for the rose advice. I am going to need some more. When the big round bush rose flowers, I will want to identify it. You had helped me identify my ballerina rose at the back. I have so many roses - a lot of them at the back are in very poor condition. I have recently taken over responsibility for the garden as my mother is now not well enough. I don't know what to do with those tired old roses - prune them or just leave them. Two roses are completely tangled together also after being planted too close. Took out all old dead branches the other day. Anyway, that's a separate advice thread I guess. What roses do you have Marlolena? As well as Rose des Rescht, I also recently bought Bonica, The Fairy, Troika, Super Trouper, Happy Anniversary (as a gift for my parents on their anniversary lol!), Nostalgia and Old Blush China. I still want to get Ingrid Bergman, Chicago Peace, Iceberg and so many more - but I think I have enough for now. I just really hope this one wakes up.
Just chipping in to say Bonica is a lovely rose - you'll have no problems with it once it gets going - doesn't seem to get any of the usual lurgies, beautiful foliage, the prettiest clear pink blooms and copes with a few greenfly without any problems.
I've grown them in three different gardens over the years and they've always come up trumps, covered with beautiful blooms (perfect for cutting too) the whole of the summer. They look lovely in a vase with some Alchemilla mollis.
Their only flaw is a weak scent, but I'll forgive that when the rest of the rose is so good.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Just chipping in to say Bonica is a lovely rose - you'll have no problems with it once it gets going - doesn't seem to get any of the usual lurgies, beautiful foliage, the prettiest clear pink blooms and copes with a few greenfly without any problems.
I've grown them in three different gardens over the years and they've always come up trumps, covered with beautiful blooms (perfect for cutting too) the whole of the summer. They look lovely in a vase with some Alchemilla mollis.
Their only flaw is a weak scent, but I'll forgive that when the rest of the rose is so good.
Thank you Dovefromabove. I heard rave reviews about Bonica. I find it hard to find highly scented roses. Here it is - have I planted it properly? Actually a gardener friend did for me. I felt he was very rough with the rose and I also feel he planted it too deeply. I have tried to pull it out but could not and I don't think I should fuss over it or disturb it. I have been very upset with how my friend mishandled it. He also mishandled my dahlia (the one mentioned above). I am always confused about whether the rootball (union?!) is supposed to be above or below the ground level? When he pushed it in, many of the base stems and leaves have broken off. He told me to just leave it alone and insisted what he's done is right. He is experienced as he had an allotment but I still feel he should not have broken all those bottom stems and leaves. Should I just leave it as it is? Is it the right depth? Maybe I am worrying too much about it all.
Also, when will this Bonica start showing flowers? Nothing is happening yet. I'm impatient!
I think you are worrying too much Wakeshine. I'm not particularly green fingered but most of my plants seem to thrive. The ones that don't are usually those which I should never have tried in the first place because they were simply not suited to the conditions. In particular I've never yet managed to kill any of the roses I inherited when I moved here and to be honest I'd like to see the back of some them Good luck!
Wakeshine, if you've tried to pull that rose out then I would go back to it and firm it in again to make sure it's firmly planted. There's nothing wrong with it otherwise... personally I plant my roses with the bud union a little below soil level, some put theirs above...I just think it looks better..
...you have some lovely roses, especially Bonica and Old Blush, what a treat!... all the others you've listed are good too but I only have Bonica of those..
...I might add, if some of your old roses are tired out and past their best, my advice would be that if you're not happy then dig them up and get rid of them... life is too short to hold on to poor performers, and we can always plant another of our own choosing... I realise they may have sentimental value for you though..
..I've got over 60 roses, mostly shrub and old garden roses, and quite a few Austin's... I don't grow modern hybrid teas but have a few floribundas.. I'll post a few photos of some you might like..
I think you are worrying too much Wakeshine. I'm not particularly green fingered but most of my plants seem to thrive. The ones that don't are usually those which I should never have tried in the first place because they were simply not suited to the conditions. In particular I've never yet managed to kill any of the roses I inherited when I moved here and to be honest I'd like to see the back of some them Good luck!
'The Lady Gardener'.. I love the peachy apricot tones..
'Royal Jubilee'.. very highly scented..growing as a climber.. ['Bonica' in the background top right]
'Kew Gardens'.. a single flowered rose. Growing on trellis 6 x 6 foot, I think it's one of the finest shrubs ever introduced... little scent, but no thorns..
'Wild Rover'.. a floribunda climber...with a good scent too.
Wakeshine, if you've tried to pull that rose out then I would go back to it and firm it in again to make sure it's firmly planted. There's nothing wrong with it otherwise... personally I plant my roses with the bud union a little below soil level, some put theirs above...I just think it looks better..
...you have some lovely roses, especially Bonica and Old Blush, what a treat!... all the others you've listed are good too but I only have Bonica of those..
...I might add, if some of your old roses are tired out and past their best, my advice would be that if you're not happy then dig them up and get rid of them... life is too short to hold on to poor performers, and we can always plant another of our own choosing... I realise they may have sentimental value for you though..
..I've got over 60 roses, mostly shrub and old garden roses, and quite a few Austin's... I don't grow modern hybrid teas but have a few floribundas.. I'll post a few photos of some you might like..
...the bud union is very deepy below soil level - is this alright? It wouldn't budge when I tried to pull it up. I will go and try and secure it again. Problem is I cannot get my heel anywhere near because the bottom stems and leaves are right there on the ground.
..I couldn't resist to getting Old Blush. I only managed to find it containerised on Britishroses.co.uk, and I was very happy with their service and delivery. It is so fragrant even with just buds on it. Still in pot, I will plant it out soon I just have to find a space.
..the older roses at the back don’t have any sentimental value to me really but I do feel sorry for them. I moved here 10 years ago. The previous owners were big rose fans it seems lol. Some of these must be 20-30 years old I guess. Here are some photo of them last month.
Most of them are all in one bed but also along the rockery in front of the eyesore shed. We have neglected them – no pruning. You can see the condition - no leaves on lower parts of the roses. I feel bad about it but will start caring for them now. I wasn’t here the last few years and my parents can’t cope with it all. They planted one and it’s too close to another and all tangled up. Just look at this – it’s two separate rose bushes. Bluebells strangling it all were removed last weekend, but it’s still a mess!
I sent a bunch of photos from a few years ago when the garden was in bloom, to the rose experts at Peter Beales. They kindly and amazingly identified most of them for me. Most are hybrid teas and floribundas, and some bushes. They told me I have (or HAD – not sure what will come up this year!) Peace, Chicago peace, Scarlet Queen Elisabeth, Arthur Bell, Possibly Silver Jubilee, Mme Louis Lapperiere, Lucky!,and Amanda, or Glenfiddich, and also Ballerina which you helped me identify.Hereare some photos, not very good quality.
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Thank you for the rose advice. I am going to need some more. When the big round bush rose flowers, I will want to identify it. You had helped me identify my ballerina rose at the back. I have so many roses - a lot of them at the back are in very poor condition. I have recently taken over responsibility for the garden as my mother is now not well enough. I don't know what to do with those tired old roses - prune them or just leave them. Two roses are completely tangled together also after being planted too close. Took out all old dead branches the other day. Anyway, that's a separate advice thread I guess. What roses do you have Marlolena? As well as Rose des Rescht, I also recently bought Bonica, The Fairy, Troika, Super Trouper, Happy Anniversary (as a gift for my parents on their anniversary lol!), Nostalgia and Old Blush China. I still want to get Ingrid Bergman, Chicago Peace, Iceberg and so many more - but I think I have enough for now. I just really hope this one wakes up.
Just chipping in to say Bonica is a lovely rose - you'll have no problems with it once it gets going - doesn't seem to get any of the usual lurgies, beautiful foliage, the prettiest clear pink blooms and copes with a few greenfly without any problems.
I've grown them in three different gardens over the years and they've always come up trumps, covered with beautiful blooms (perfect for cutting too) the whole of the summer. They look lovely in a vase with some Alchemilla mollis.
Their only flaw is a weak scent, but I'll forgive that when the rest of the rose is so good.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Thank you Dovefromabove. I heard rave reviews about Bonica. I find it hard to find highly scented roses. Here it is - have I planted it properly? Actually a gardener friend did for me. I felt he was very rough with the rose and I also feel he planted it too deeply. I have tried to pull it out but could not and I don't think I should fuss over it or disturb it. I have been very upset with how my friend mishandled it. He also mishandled my dahlia (the one mentioned above). I am always confused about whether the rootball (union?!) is supposed to be above or below the ground level? When he pushed it in, many of the base stems and leaves have broken off. He told me to just leave it alone and insisted what he's done is right. He is experienced as he had an allotment but I still feel he should not have broken all those bottom stems and leaves. Should I just leave it as it is? Is it the right depth? Maybe I am worrying too much about it all.
Also, when will this Bonica start showing flowers? Nothing is happening yet. I'm impatient!
I think you are worrying too much Wakeshine. I'm not particularly green fingered but most of my plants seem to thrive. The ones that don't are usually those which I should never have tried in the first place because they were simply not suited to the conditions. In particular I've never yet managed to kill any of the roses I inherited when I moved here and to be honest I'd like to see the back of some them
Good luck!
..yes I agree with that...
Wakeshine, if you've tried to pull that rose out then I would go back to it and firm it in again to make sure it's firmly planted. There's nothing wrong with it otherwise... personally I plant my roses with the bud union a little below soil level, some put theirs above...I just think it looks better..
...you have some lovely roses, especially Bonica and Old Blush, what a treat!... all the others you've listed are good too but I only have Bonica of those..
...I might add, if some of your old roses are tired out and past their best, my advice would be that if you're not happy then dig them up and get rid of them... life is too short to hold on to poor performers, and we can always plant another of our own choosing... I realise they may have sentimental value for you though..
..I've got over 60 roses, mostly shrub and old garden roses, and quite a few Austin's... I don't grow modern hybrid teas but have a few floribundas.. I'll post a few photos of some you might like..
Yes I think I am haha. Thanks, I will try to chill out.
'Octavia Hill'.. a pretty little shrub rose...
'The Lady Gardener'.. I love the peachy apricot tones..
'Royal Jubilee'.. very highly scented..growing as a climber.. ['Bonica' in the background top right]
'Kew Gardens'.. a single flowered rose. Growing on trellis 6 x 6 foot, I think it's one of the finest shrubs ever introduced... little scent, but no thorns..
'Wild Rover'.. a floribunda climber...with a good scent too.
...the bud union is very deepy below soil level - is this alright? It wouldn't budge when I tried to pull it up. I will go and try and secure it again. Problem is I cannot get my heel anywhere near because the bottom stems and leaves are right there on the ground.
..I couldn't resist to getting Old Blush. I only managed to find it containerised on Britishroses.co.uk, and I was very happy with their service and delivery. It is so fragrant even with just buds on it. Still in pot, I will plant it out soon I just have to find a space.
..the older roses at the back don’t have any sentimental value to me really but I do feel sorry for them. I moved here 10 years ago. The previous owners were big rose fans it seems lol. Some of these must be 20-30 years old I guess. Here are some photo of them last month.
Most of them are all in one bed but also along the rockery in front of the eyesore shed. We have neglected them – no pruning. You can see the condition - no leaves on lower parts of the roses. I feel bad about it but will start caring for them now. I wasn’t here the last few years and my parents can’t cope with it all. They planted one and it’s too close to another and all tangled up. Just look at this – it’s two separate rose bushes. Bluebells strangling it all were removed last weekend, but it’s still a mess!
I sent a bunch of photos from a few years ago when the garden was in bloom, to the rose experts at Peter Beales. They kindly and amazingly identified most of them for me. Most are hybrid teas and floribundas, and some bushes. They told me I have (or HAD – not sure what will come up this year!) Peace, Chicago peace, Scarlet Queen Elisabeth, Arthur Bell, Possibly Silver Jubilee, Mme Louis Lapperiere, Lucky!,and Amanda, or Glenfiddich, and also Ballerina which you helped me identify.Hereare some photos, not very good quality.
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