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Tallish Self Supporting Perenials

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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,142
    Right, that's a different scenario to what I'd envisaged. I'd put some tall narrow obelisks between the espalier and grow either sweet peas/ ipomeas/canary creeper/ blackeyed Susan, that sort of thing image

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,142
    Beans are often grown on the same site year after year. That's not a problem as there aren't pests/deficiencies that build up in the soil. image

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Sophie17Sophie17 Posts: 342
    Have you thought about tree lilies? They grow nicely infront of my fence and the stem is about two inches thick and they are self supporting. There's still time to plant to get flowers this summer
  • hogweedhogweed Posts: 4,053

    Valeriana interplanted with purple Verbena bonariensis. Bright and cheery and will look after themselves.

    'Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement' - Helen Keller
  • Helianthus - there are some lovely varieties available. I have Lemon queen interspersed with white Japanese Anemones on a very windy site.

  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410

    I am a big fan of phlox paniculata - never need staking, and loads of colours to choose from.  Flower from early July til end August.

  • Thank you everybody for all your kind suggestions, certainly got some thinking to do.

     

    Thank you

  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618

    I'd cover that wall with fan trained cherries. It would then be fairly easy to net them to keep the birds off.

  • Like the idea of "phlox paniculata" and "Japanese Anemones" or "Wind Anemones" and the "Helianthus" or "Sunflowers", didn't know there was a perennial sunflower and the "Lemon Queen" looks very nice but too tall at 2 to 2.5mtrs.

    Do you, or can you cut them back during there initial growth to keep them a little shorter? reduce final flowering height.

    "Veronicastrum virginicum 'Fascination'" & "Sanguisorba officinalis 'greater burnet'" at 1.2mtrs is just pushing the height I'm looking for but love the idea.

    Will the half days full sun keep the height down or will they grow taller trying to find more sun?

  • Thank you for your idea to train cherries along the wall but don't want to remove the crab apple trees. Ooooodles of blossom in the spring and lots of bright golden yellow fruit for the birds all winter.

    Good idea though

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