oh I didn't mean to indicate that men make better gardeners than women at all, just different, speaking very generally here... I think they tend to go about it differently... and we may prefer one over the other... some gardens can look quite masculine to me, somewhat ordered, clipped, manicured and controlled, with everything in their proper places... I usually find it's a male gardener in command here...... men tend to take a similar line with their cars....
perhaps many ladies are just too busy with other matters to be so pre-occupied with such perfection....
..and some of their plant choices don't always appeal to me... and I would not doubt the same is true vice versa... which is why I think it's unwise to be too dogmatic about the appeal of certain types of plants, as what one person enjoys, another might find quite unappealing...
...dear Gertrude Jekyll loved her Japanese Knotweed, seemingly unaware of it's full potential.... well, I suppose it has a certain something...je ne sais quoi...?
Hi Salino. Agree with what you say. Ref the Knotweed that certainly was "Knot" Gertrudes best idea for sure, talk about Triffids. Also to be honest some of herher style of gardening seemed a little too rigid to me. I did actually forget to mention Mrs. Sackville West. Ref the single Roses you asked me about heres a couple of pics - they have been flowering for some time now and that scent reaches when quite a way away.
...I think it's as much to do with masculine and feminine expression, often polarised in people and it shows up in gardening... as it does with many things in life...
Keen 1, gorgeous roses, they have a Rugosa look about them... would you say..?
As a man , living on his own through no fault of his own, and who has just spent 3 hours cleaning the house, with washing clothes to come I think that it is time we all thought of another subject to discuss. You are all digging yourselves into larger and larger holes and it is time to stop before we reach Australia where things can only get worse.
Hi. Agreed with Woodgreen - getting a bit heavy and off track - back to the hands on (plants) stuff. Salino. Ref the Roses certainly look like as you said rugosas. I did mention that I grew them and one more which is not yet flowering size from seeds from "aquired" Haws in hedges. This other one is a deeper red than that sent. The hedge was a mixed one round the garden of a large House and was growing road side of a steel 6 ft fence to hide it. I noted them when in flower, in Autumn took a couple of Haws, removed the seeds and sowed in pots of compost then put them in the very coldest part of the garden all winter to get a good frosting. Came the Spring there they wuz. Grew the seedlings on, potted them individually and then into the garden. All other Roses here are climbers - along the garage pink, yellow,red and a duo coloured one ( Picotee?) with some Clematis growing through them and a white on the back corner of the bungalow. Ref that (Picotee?) you could pse tell me what they are called - this is pink with a deeper red striping in it and has a "crinkly" look to the foliage. Nice to natter for sure.
...I wonder if that picotee rose is 'Handel', Keen1, see what you think of that... it's a popular climbing rose...
...well done for getting those seeds going... I think they are Rugosa's as they develop the most wonderful large hips after flowering... I like them very much although they sucker rather a lot and go on to make large spreading bushes, invading around them...got a bit fed up with that...I used to grow several varieties of these, the most scented was a white one called 'Blanc Double de Coubert'.. your white one wouldn't be this, more like Rosa Rugosa 'Alba'... and the pink, it's 'Rubra' version.... that's what they look like to me...
I tried to breed a rose once, crossing 'Zephirine Drouhin' with some other, I forget which.... unfortunately, living in Kent at the time, the hurricane of 1987 blew the lot away...
..do you have a favourite Hosta, Mr Keen...? I only grow one, Sieboldiana 'Elegans'... it's just in flower now, looks quite nice... leaves a bit eaten by snails but I don't worry too much about that.... I don't think you would care for that though... would you...?
As a man , living on his own through no fault of his own, and who has just spent 3 hours cleaning the house, with washing clothes to come I think that it is time we all thought of another subject to discuss. You are all digging yourselves into larger and larger holes and it is time to stop before we reach Australia where things can only get worse.
...I'm sorry to hear you have to do all the cleaning... I know what that's like..
no problem about the discussion, it's only a bit of fun really... I always think that as long as we don't state our opinions as being facts - which some people tend to do - then we can either agree or not as the case may be...
...Verdun forgets that I too was brought up on pasties, saffron cake and clotted cream... some might think it didn't do either of us any good... it wouldn't do anyone any good... in my opinion...
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oh I didn't mean to indicate that men make better gardeners than women at all, just different, speaking very generally here... I think they tend to go about it differently... and we may prefer one over the other... some gardens can look quite masculine to me, somewhat ordered, clipped, manicured and controlled, with everything in their proper places... I usually find it's a male gardener in command here...... men tend to take a similar line with their cars....
perhaps many ladies are just too busy with other matters to be so pre-occupied with such perfection....
..and some of their plant choices don't always appeal to me... and I would not doubt the same is true vice versa... which is why I think it's unwise to be too dogmatic about the appeal of certain types of plants, as what one person enjoys, another might find quite unappealing...
...dear Gertrude Jekyll loved her Japanese Knotweed, seemingly unaware of it's full potential.... well, I suppose it has a certain something...je ne sais quoi...?
Hi Salino. Agree with what you say. Ref the Knotweed that certainly was "Knot" Gertrudes best idea for sure, talk about Triffids. Also to be honest some of herher style of gardening seemed a little too rigid to me. I did actually forget to mention Mrs. Sackville West. Ref the single Roses you asked me about heres a couple of pics - they have been flowering for some time now and that scent reaches when quite a way away.
...I think it's as much to do with masculine and feminine expression, often polarised in people and it shows up in gardening... as it does with many things in life...
Keen 1, gorgeous roses, they have a Rugosa look about them... would you say..?
As a man , living on his own through no fault of his own, and who has just spent 3 hours cleaning the house, with washing clothes to come I think that it is time we all thought of another subject to discuss. You are all digging yourselves into larger and larger holes and it is time to stop before we reach Australia where things can only get worse.
Hi. Agreed with Woodgreen - getting a bit heavy and off track - back to the hands on (plants) stuff. Salino. Ref the Roses certainly look like as you said rugosas. I did mention that I grew them and one more which is not yet flowering size from seeds from "aquired" Haws in hedges. This other one is a deeper red than that sent. The hedge was a mixed one round the garden of a large House and was growing road side of a steel 6 ft fence to hide it. I noted them when in flower, in Autumn took a couple of Haws, removed the seeds and sowed in pots of compost then put them in the very coldest part of the garden all winter to get a good frosting. Came the Spring there they wuz. Grew the seedlings on, potted them individually and then into the garden. All other Roses here are climbers - along the garage pink, yellow,red and a duo coloured one ( Picotee?) with some Clematis growing through them and a white on the back corner of the bungalow. Ref that (Picotee?) you could pse tell me what they are called - this is pink with a deeper red striping in it and has a "crinkly" look to the foliage. Nice to natter for sure.
...I wonder if that picotee rose is 'Handel', Keen1, see what you think of that... it's a popular climbing rose...
...well done for getting those seeds going... I think they are Rugosa's as they develop the most wonderful large hips after flowering... I like them very much although they sucker rather a lot and go on to make large spreading bushes, invading around them...got a bit fed up with that...I used to grow several varieties of these, the most scented was a white one called 'Blanc Double de Coubert'.. your white one wouldn't be this, more like Rosa Rugosa 'Alba'... and the pink, it's 'Rubra' version.... that's what they look like to me...
I tried to breed a rose once, crossing 'Zephirine Drouhin' with some other, I forget which.... unfortunately, living in Kent at the time, the hurricane of 1987 blew the lot away...
..do you have a favourite Hosta, Mr Keen...? I only grow one, Sieboldiana 'Elegans'... it's just in flower now, looks quite nice... leaves a bit eaten by snails but I don't worry too much about that.... I don't think you would care for that though... would you...?
...I'm sorry to hear you have to do all the cleaning... I know what that's like..
no problem about the discussion, it's only a bit of fun really... I always think that as long as we don't state our opinions as being facts - which some people tend to do - then we can either agree or not as the case may be...
...Verdun forgets that I too was brought up on pasties, saffron cake and clotted cream... some might think it didn't do either of us any good... it wouldn't do anyone any good... in my opinion...