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Identification and help to remove please

Hi all.
I am not a gardener and the yard has been neglected for a few years now but I have a baby now so that is going to change, problem is there is a thorny vine like weed growing all over the garden, I'm not sre where it came from but it seemed to syart near the rose bush at the bottom of the garden though there has been no roses so I guess its something else entirely but it has taken over the full garden. It grew to 8ft-10ft and I went out and cut it down and then dug up the bulb like roots yet as I did some thin strands snapped and I could not possibly get them all!
I sieved the soil as there was a lot of debris in it but within a week or two there were some clover like leaves sprouting, I sprayed these with weedkiller (Roundup) but wasn't sure if it was a bit too early, anyway they are now up at 4 foot all over again so i need help.
I was thinking to buy some black out material and cover the whole garden after digging it all up again but then I thought maybe spraying it all and covering may be better?
All help is apreciated as this thing is a nightmare to me image

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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,139

    The thorny bush is blackberry brambles.  That's what's growing around the edges of the yard too.  You need to treat it with SBK Brushwood Killer.  That should kill off the rest of the weeds etc that you have there too.

    It'll be great to clear that lot and start with a clean sheet to make a garden for your family.  If there's any advice we can give please don't hesitate to ask

     


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • I will give that a try, thanks for the quick response, not seen any brambles on it yet though as thats what I thought it looked most like myself?

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,139

    They'll flower and fruit next year - if you don't get rid of them image


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • WelshonionWelshonion Posts: 3,114
    I have found that digging the plant up is effective. If there is regrowth from the roots left behind it is usually very weak and easily dealt with. Cut the branches to within a foot of the ground. Dig up the root and burn it.
  • Got the SBK and a sprayer on order, Thanks!

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,139

    Afraid you'll still have to dig the roots up, but it'll be easier when they're dead.  image


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Two tips to make your removal a bit easier, from someone who has just tackled a much smaller scale problem :



    Use welding gloves if you're going to be cutting and digging by hand - I bought a red pair from Amazon and they were a great barrier against all the thorns!



    Also I read that a bramble can regrow from its cut stems, so if you cut a branch you're not meant to leave it on soil in case it starts to grow again. I haven't seen this myself but my Internet research suggested it was true!
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445

    It must be true if it's on the internetimage

     



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445

    Ah, I didn't realise that Jo. My contact with daily papers is limited to firelightingimage



    In the sticks near Peterborough
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