Re families shopping with their kids, I'm an OAP with the whole day at my disposal, so I try to do my shopping when they are least likely to be around, mostly around lunch time when everyone is fooding!
Everything nowadays seems to be geared to 'kids', horrible expression - with the Mad Women on the school runs driving like lunatics to get to the school on time, (don't worry about the other children wandering everywhere), and yeah, families having a day out in the supermarket, running screaming in the aisles of B & Q, and I'm sure some of them take a picnic lunch! Final straw is when I see restaurants and pubs advertising 'kids eat free' - no they b...dy don't - you and I are paying for them!
My three grandchildren are lovely, and luckily,well behaved and bright ( ages are 3, 5 and 10 ), but their parents, my son and daughter, and their husband and wife, are just as self-indulgent as most decent modern parents; totally different mind-sets now to earlier days.
I'm back to 'the good old days' moan, but despite the hardships, people were more self-reliant, disciplined, and basically sensible compared to now.
What an old misery I am today - we must start a 'happy days' thread of some sort!
G/G, think of the changes in our lifetime, how we all wanted change, it took time but we got there so who says change must stop because we are satisfied. All the stuff we threw out after the war and the need for new and modern, that stuff we did sling is now worth a fortune because people want it, to them it is twee and up to date? Town centres are gone unless we get a transport system (Trams) from door to town and back, that would bring the Town centres back to life or move the masses of people they moved from town centres back again, that is happening very slowly, will the shops catch up? My Grandchildren have far differing needs to us older generations and they will progress into a world we would be lost in, as long as I can live my life out in peace and some tranquility then so be it. Frank.
Pentillie - not an old misery at all. You are merely saying what many others think, myself included. Have to admit I am a culprit in using the term 'kids'. Will try to do better.
I have a primary school within spitting distance of me and over the years have noticed the decline in their behaviour. Mums spread across the path, children running riot in your path and not a word said. Of course, they are on the way to their people carriers, all parked as close as can be to the school.
I feel fortunate that my youngest grandchildren are being brought up with the values instilled in my daughter and it is noticed. Last week they both received a 'Respect' badge in assembly given to pupils who show same to their peers and teachers. We were very proud. 18 year old grandson brought up by me, so I know he is well grounded, well as an 18 year old can be! So far, he has been great.
Frank, it is true that, as society changes, older people can feel like dinosaurs, because we find it difficult to adjust. Also younger people don't need the same pace of life as we do. They like excitement and stimulation. Lots of changes were good. There has been greater prosperity, so that even many people officially below the poverty line have telephones, televisions and are adequately dressed and warm. When I was young, 3% of the population went to university. Now, around a third of young people have a degree. I'm not minimising the problems, just pointing out that few now live as my husband did as a child, wearing hand me down trousers with patches on the patches and shoes with cardboard in the soles and no toys or books for Christmas - and his father was employed. He was the village policeman and his family owned the local pottery.
Pentille, that notice says Eat kids free, in the words of a great comic, "do you like kids" "yes but I could not eat a whole one" and how I wished at times.
Swiss Sue...a great time to shop is around 2.30- 3 or 4 in the afternoon. The shops empty as they all shoot off on the reverse school-run.
GG I agree that the me,me, me culture has a lot to answer for. This started in the 1980s with Thatcher and her gang. Everyone seems to conveniently ignore that many of our current problems have deep roots going back to then , including the financial meltdown a few years ago. However that's not to say that everything was great before then. The real problem now stems from Blair and Brown failing to take proper advantage of the longest and most benign period of economic prosperity in our lifetime. They blew it. And the current crowd...well I am speechless. Goodnight.
Wasn't on here last night- was too busy taking my kids out to eat free...
You've all been having a right good go haven't you!!!
Frank/Dad -think it was WC Fields who said it..use the phrase frequently myself
Tina I think it was me that started the thing about the carparking spaces for 'parent and child'. I often wanted to park there when I took Dad to the shops...well they were nearer the door than most of the disabled spaces he was entitled to use and since he'd broken his hip I often felt ready to take on some of these lazy mothers with their lazy weans (that's kids Pentillie!!) . I agree the wider space is good when you're trying to get different children out of a car but as I said - have they all lost the use of their legs?
And don't get me going on the way people park in these car parks...
WW you are so right about the me me me thing. I hope we can get back to a stage where people try to think about someone other than themselves now and again. When I moved in here recently the lady next door put a card through the door to say hello. The same happened when I'd moved into a rented house temporarily 15 months ago. I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt- doesn't always work but I couldn't be any other way. The kindness shown to me on this forum bears that out.
I'm off to work now...can't all sit about getting the day off you know..!
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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Re families shopping with their kids, I'm an OAP with the whole day at my disposal, so I try to do my shopping when they are least likely to be around, mostly around lunch time when everyone is fooding!
My three grandchildren are lovely, and luckily,well behaved and bright ( ages are 3, 5 and 10 ), but their parents, my son and daughter, and their husband and wife, are just as self-indulgent as most decent modern parents; totally different mind-sets now to earlier days.
I'm back to 'the good old days' moan, but despite the hardships, people were more self-reliant, disciplined, and basically sensible compared to now.
What an old misery I am today - we must start a 'happy days' thread of some sort!
G/G, think of the changes in our lifetime, how we all wanted change, it took time but we got there so who says change must stop because we are satisfied.
All the stuff we threw out after the war and the need for new and modern, that stuff we did sling is now worth a fortune because people want it, to them it is twee and up to date?
Town centres are gone unless we get a transport system (Trams) from door to town and back, that would bring the Town centres back to life or move the masses of people they moved from town centres back again, that is happening very slowly, will the shops catch up?
My Grandchildren have far differing needs to us older generations and they will progress into a world we would be lost in, as long as I can live my life out in peace and some tranquility then so be it.
Frank.
Pentillie - not an old misery at all. You are merely saying what many others think, myself included. Have to admit I am a culprit in using the term 'kids'. Will try to do better.
I have a primary school within spitting distance of me and over the years have noticed the decline in their behaviour. Mums spread across the path, children running riot in your path and not a word said. Of course, they are on the way to their people carriers, all parked as close as can be to the school.
I feel fortunate that my youngest grandchildren are being brought up with the values instilled in my daughter and it is noticed. Last week they both received a 'Respect' badge in assembly given to pupils who show same to their peers and teachers. We were very proud. 18 year old grandson brought up by me, so I know he is well grounded, well as an 18 year old can be! So far, he has been great.
Frank, it is true that, as society changes, older people can feel like dinosaurs, because we find it difficult to adjust. Also younger people don't need the same pace of life as we do. They like excitement and stimulation. Lots of changes were good. There has been greater prosperity, so that even many people officially below the poverty line have telephones, televisions and are adequately dressed and warm. When I was young, 3% of the population went to university. Now, around a third of young people have a degree. I'm not minimising the problems, just pointing out that few now live as my husband did as a child, wearing hand me down trousers with patches on the patches and shoes with cardboard in the soles and no toys or books for Christmas - and his father was employed. He was the village policeman and his family owned the local pottery.
Pentille, that notice says Eat kids free, in the words of a great comic, "do you like kids" "yes but I could not eat a whole one" and how I wished at times.
Frank.
Swiss Sue...a great time to shop is around 2.30- 3 or 4 in the afternoon. The shops empty as they all shoot off on the reverse school-run.
GG I agree that the me,me, me culture has a lot to answer for. This started in the 1980s with Thatcher and her gang. Everyone seems to conveniently ignore that many of our current problems have deep roots going back to then , including the financial meltdown a few years ago. However that's not to say that everything was great before then. The real problem now stems from Blair and Brown failing to take proper advantage of the longest and most benign period of economic prosperity in our lifetime. They blew it. And the current crowd...well I am speechless. Goodnight.
Wasn't on here last night- was too busy taking my kids out to eat free...
You've all been having a right good go haven't you!!!
Frank/Dad -think it was WC Fields who said it..use the phrase frequently myself
Tina I think it was me that started the thing about the carparking spaces for 'parent and child'. I often wanted to park there when I took Dad to the shops...well they were nearer the door than most of the disabled spaces he was entitled to use and since he'd broken his hip I often felt ready to take on some of these lazy mothers with their lazy weans (that's kids Pentillie!!) . I agree the wider space is good when you're trying to get different children out of a car but as I said - have they all lost the use of their legs?
And don't get me going on the way people park in these car parks...
WW you are so right about the me me me thing. I hope we can get back to a stage where people try to think about someone other than themselves now and again. When I moved in here recently the lady next door put a card through the door to say hello. The same happened when I'd moved into a rented house temporarily 15 months ago. I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt- doesn't always work but I couldn't be any other way. The kindness shown to me on this forum bears that out.
I'm off to work now...can't all sit about getting the day off you know..!
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...