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Help with spuds and toms

Cornish Boy up NorthCornish Boy up North Posts: 40
in Problem solving

Can anyone help with this problem with my potatoes and toms? the spuds have

curly tops like furns and the toms are simular, the one I dug out had its growth wrapped around it in a circle its a red duke of york, my seconds and main crop have the same problem.

The toms although growing have their tops wilted (this is the second batch)

My mate has the same problem, we bought our seed spuds from the same supplier.

Thanks

 

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  • Cornish Boy up NorthCornish Boy up North Posts: 40

    I did think of that and I have used it for the first time this year, but it was a while ago and before the spuds emerged from the ground, but as I said my mate has the same problem and he is quite a distance from my plot, he did mention to me that a friend of his who grows a lot of potatoes could not get hold of red duke of york as the supplier had problems with disease, and he also has problems with his toms?

  • Cornish Boy up NorthCornish Boy up North Posts: 40

    No I am the only one that has used it.

    In answer to stable muck yes we have both used it from the same source but it has been rotting down since last summer when we collected it, but he has used it on his other spuds with no problems, I think the problem lays elsewhere, thank you for your replies and it wasent raw straw this had been chewed along with grass

  • DorsetUKDorsetUK Posts: 441

    I've got 5 Duke of York in a container and they are about 2-3 feet tall and all upright.  I know there's pots underneath as I've had a couple of little ones just to check.  Got a packet from the Range just to try out

  • Cornish Boy up NorthCornish Boy up North Posts: 40

    In fact we both had some left over and put in tubs and they are just like yours tall and upright and yes there are tatters growing you can see the bulge in the bag, the thing is these are just been grown in compost and they look really good. We thought that as they were in the greenhouse with the toms the potato plant had passed something on to them? We really are sraching our heads to what the problem is.

  • Cornish Boy up NorthCornish Boy up North Posts: 40

    Thank you for that link, I have just read about the problem Oh Dear, as I have spread quite a lot of this muck on my garden, I was wondering why my broad beans had stopped growing, my peas are in it and seem to be fine, in fact i put that batch on last year so maybe that lot was ok.

    Just glad I have not put my runner beans in yet as I dug a trench ages ago and put in that muck, so looks as if I need to find somewhere else but as land is a bit short will proabably have to dig it out and hope for the best, I read that it could effect leeks as well as I have just manured that plot ready to get them in this week.

    I have quite a bit of this manaure and has taken me a long time to shift it well I will just leave it there for the next few years as am I right that it will improve over a period of time?

    Thanks again for that link its just soul destroying all that hard work that I have put in, but as they say thats gardening for you.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,138

    I understand that any farmer using this weedkiller was instructed some while ago (a couple of years at least I think) that any resulting manure should not be allowed to leave the farm.  They should certainly not be selling/giving it to allotment holders.  You should contact DEFRA and let them know about the problem before others suffer.


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Cornish Boy up NorthCornish Boy up North Posts: 40

    Just read even more letters on the subject this is terrible just told my mate and he has all his toms with this muck in I cannot repeat what his answer was here but you can imagine what they were

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,138

    If you scroll down and read Q8 here http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/guidance/industries/pesticides/topics/using-pesticides/General/issues-associated-with-the-use-of-farm-yard-manure-containing-aminopyralid-residues#Q5  you'll see that there's no way you should have been supplied with manure containing aminopyralid - since 2009 there have been strict regulations about this and these were put in place in response to the problems suffered by gardeners and allotment holders and to protect them in the future.

    As I said, please contact the Animal & Plant Health Agency (part of DEFRA) - contact details here https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/animal-and-plant-health-agency/about/access-and-opening


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Cornish Boy up NorthCornish Boy up North Posts: 40

    Seems as if this is old hay or someone still got some of this chemical left, I will report this but will talk to the stable where we collected it to see where they sourced their hay.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,138

    Someone's been contravening the regulations - taken from the link in my post above:

    • product labels must state that manure derived from animals that grazed on grassland treated with aminopyralid should be returned directly to the grassland i.e. keeping it on farm;
    • only grassland grazed by cattle and sheep may be treated – not that grazed by horses; ...

    It really should be reported.


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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