Thank you David - and a Happy Christmas to you too - what lovely cards - Where did you get those from?
Cangran - I don't think you need to worry - I'm sure lots of people still go michief- nighting & I'm sure they won't mind if you join in! I do actually approve of mischief night because it is one of 'our' own old traditions - along with guising, apple bobbing etc etc. but I don't like the American import of 'trick or treat'.
I don't remember any commercialisation around the old Halloween traditions - it was all home made fun. But the shops have really jumped on the US bandwagon & hijacked the date & there is a lot of advertising / retailing & profiteering associated with trick or treat. Makes me angry - especially as it's aimed directly at children.
Rant over....
Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
Thanks for your reciprocated wishes, ladies. I've had the cards for over 20 years*; now mounted and displayed in my hallway / porch. I believe that they date from the mid- Victorian era, but I can't establish a firm age for them. *[a quixotic 'junk shop' purchase from waaaay back when they cost only a few pence - I've seen similar at between £5- £10 but they were modern reprints, not original cards with messages on the back!].
To return to Topbird's Xmas - I was taught (at village primary school) that the X in Xmas was the old symbol meaning Christ and that it used to beused a lot to save space, ink and time when writing Christmas and Christian etc.
However, I was taught that as it was a symbol meaning Christ you should read it as Christ and so Xmas should be pronounced Christmas etc.
The X in Xmas is not the letter 'x' from the alphabet as in xyz and should not be pronounced as such.
I received a remarkable education in that tiny village school.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Morning Dove - you were up before the larks today!
Here is a picture of the chi-rho (also known as the christogram) - made up of the greek letters 'X' (=ch) and P (=r) which has been used as an abbreviation for the word / name "Christ" for centuries. It can be found in churches around the country & there is an image somewhere of a chi-rho mosaic at Lullingstone Villa in Kent (Roman villa) .
As Dove says the abbreviation is for 'Christ' and should be pronounced as such. The word Xmas should, therefore, NOT be pronounced "ex-mas".
Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
This forum has ticked all my boxes, whoever put it together couldnt have done it any better
it covers everything from a tiny seed to almost every problem we have . A genus of members who are mind boggling , and don't hesitate to share knowledge , ideas and friendship .
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Cangran - I don't think you need to worry - I'm sure lots of people still go michief- nighting & I'm sure they won't mind if you join in! I do actually approve of mischief night because it is one of 'our' own old traditions - along with guising, apple bobbing etc etc. but I don't like the American import of 'trick or treat'.
I don't remember any commercialisation around the old Halloween traditions - it was all home made fun. But the shops have really jumped on the US bandwagon & hijacked the date & there is a lot of advertising / retailing & profiteering associated with trick or treat. Makes me angry - especially as it's aimed directly at children.
Rant over....
They are two cute cards ,
What does the writing say on the lower one please?
I can't enlarge it enough .on the kindle the pixels disappear sometimes.
Gm hope the weather is kind to you for planting out your bulbs, I've still got a couple of hundred to get in somewhere.
Topbird I'm with you on this one , your right about the trick / treat like a lot of American things that's come over
as jj tells us " it's all about the money "'.........
Gran, have you tried tapping on the picture, it will enlarge to full screen with no loss or distortion.
It says wishing you a Happy Christmas and a bright new year
They are beautiful cards.
David - how lovely of you. I'm touched and slightly
I used to look just like that..
Hope you have a lovely Christmas and New Year too
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Lyn-it works on the laptop it's just this kindle it's a bit temperamental
the cards are beautiful a lovely idea to pass on Christmas wishes.
Thanks for your reciprocated wishes, ladies. I've had the cards for over 20 years*; now mounted and displayed in my hallway / porch. I believe that they date from the mid- Victorian era, but I can't establish a firm age for them. *[a quixotic 'junk shop' purchase from waaaay back when they cost only a few pence - I've seen similar at between £5- £10 but they were modern reprints, not original cards with messages on the back!].
Lovely cards David
To return to Topbird's Xmas - I was taught (at village primary school) that the X in Xmas was the old symbol meaning Christ and that it used to beused a lot to save space, ink and time when writing Christmas and Christian etc.
However, I was taught that as it was a symbol meaning Christ you should read it as Christ and so Xmas should be pronounced Christmas etc.
The X in Xmas is not the letter 'x' from the alphabet as in xyz and should not be pronounced as such.
I received a remarkable education in that tiny village school.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Morning Dove - you were up before the larks today!
Here is a picture of the chi-rho (also known as the christogram) - made up of the greek letters 'X' (=ch) and P (=r) which has been used as an abbreviation for the word / name "Christ" for centuries. It can be found in churches around the country & there is an image somewhere of a chi-rho mosaic at Lullingstone Villa in Kent (Roman villa) .
As Dove says the abbreviation is for 'Christ' and should be pronounced as such. The word Xmas should, therefore, NOT be pronounced "ex-mas".
This forum has ticked all my boxes,
whoever put it together couldnt have done it any better
it covers everything from a tiny seed to almost every problem we have . A genus of members who are mind boggling , and don't hesitate to share knowledge , ideas and friendship .
Thank You.