I think the first one is winter heliotrope. From your photo it looks the same as a plant I am still fighting with in my garden.
Only the male plant in the UK, so it only spreads in clumps, like a carpet of hell. Deep, thick beige roots, that web through the ground.
You can kill it with several doses of a Glyphosate weedkiller. Then you need to keep cutting it hard to the ground any time it pops up again to suffocate it, or apply weedkiller again. Digging it up is smart if you are irradiating a large area, but any tiny fragment will just grow again.
Whatever the name, if it is the same plant I have been dealing with, good luck.
Thanks Nigel4ever, I think you have it. I have resorted to Glyphosate weedkiller where it was growing on its own, but where it is appearing in amongst other ground cover, it is a bit more trcky. Spot weedkiller it is.
Butterbur is Petasites hybridus, winter heliotrope is Petasites fragrans, and there's Petasites alba as well, that's probably the one I've got it's white, very pretty and I may live to regret it.
I thnk the first one is celandine. If you dig it up you will find small nodules thta break off to make more plants. The leaves are just beginnig to appear now in my garden. I have tried mulching, digging, poisoning!, absolutely no joy to get rid of it. Alan T says almost impossible to remove, Did an article probably in GW about worst weeds to get rid of. Article may ahve been last year not this.
The first one looks like 'Jack in The Hedge' (garlic mustard) and the description matches. I have come up all over my garden has quite deep roots so be sure to dig deep and get it out before it seeds everywhere.
On an invasiveness scale of 1-10. Petasites and celandine are 10. Jack in the hedge possibly barely 1. It's a biennial, if you pull it up it's gone, the other 2 just ignore all your efforts
That said Alliaria petiolata may regenerate from adventitious buds on the roots. These may sit doormant in the soil for up to 18 months until disturbed and thus regenerating. Often classed as Monocarpic perennials rather than biennials because the foliage can remain for more than two years before they flower. All this in mind I think an invasiveness of barely 1 is a little off the mark.
Posts
Only the male plant in the UK, so it only spreads in clumps, like a carpet of hell. Deep, thick beige roots, that web through the ground.
You can kill it with several doses of a Glyphosate weedkiller. Then you need to keep cutting it hard to the ground any time it pops up again to suffocate it, or apply weedkiller again. Digging it up is smart if you are irradiating a large area, but any tiny fragment will just grow again.
Whatever the name, if it is the same plant I have been dealing with, good luck.
Thanks Nigel4ever, I think you have it. I have resorted to Glyphosate weedkiller where it was growing on its own, but where it is appearing in amongst other ground cover, it is a bit more trcky. Spot weedkiller it is.
Butterbur is Petasites hybridus, winter heliotrope is Petasites fragrans, and there's Petasites alba as well, that's probably the one I've got it's white, very pretty and I may live to regret it.
In the sticks near Peterborough
I'm not so good at my latin names yet nutcutlet, thanks for the info.
This lot are thugs whatever language you use.
In the sticks near Peterborough
I thnk the first one is celandine. If you dig it up you will find small nodules thta break off to make more plants. The leaves are just beginnig to appear now in my garden. I have tried mulching, digging, poisoning!, absolutely no joy to get rid of it. Alan T says almost impossible to remove, Did an article probably in GW about worst weeds to get rid of. Article may ahve been last year not this.
Celandine leaves
I don't think it's shiny enough or the right leaf shape/ manner of growth for celandine.
Agree about the invasiveness though
In the sticks near Peterborough
The first one looks like 'Jack in The Hedge' (garlic mustard) and the description matches. I have come up all over my garden has quite deep roots so be sure to dig deep and get it out before it seeds everywhere.
On an invasiveness scale of 1-10. Petasites and celandine are 10. Jack in the hedge possibly barely 1. It's a biennial, if you pull it up it's gone, the other 2 just ignore all your efforts
In the sticks near Peterborough
That said Alliaria petiolata may regenerate from adventitious buds on the roots. These may sit doormant in the soil for up to 18 months until disturbed and thus regenerating. Often classed as Monocarpic perennials rather than biennials because the foliage can remain for more than two years before they flower. All this in mind I think an invasiveness of barely 1 is a little off the mark.