The leaves look really similar, although this one you have found is spikey, and mine are smooth edged. I can't quite remember what the flowers were like, but I don't think they were as nice as these.
It looks like the right family but not the exact same plant
The top one still escapes me. There are very few plants with that shaped leaf so it ought to be possible. Maianthemum has it, as does one of the smaller growing Dock (Rubble Dock) and Convolulus arvensis. The latter has small pink,sometimes white flowers and is a ground hugging plant not a climber like Bindweed.
hi rainwater fanatic just looking at your first plant as i have a clump of these and cant get rid of them either i find the snails love to hide in clumps underneath the leaves they pull out very easily but soon come up again with a vengance they have a very palish pink flower that comes up through the leaves,not very nice,but i was told its from the family of scurvy grass and as a wild plant grows naturally in woods,mine grows on a bank,so im going to leave mine and keep pulling it up.
Green Alkanet looks like the closest match for the second image, and I think I am going to have to go with petasites for the first. When I searched google images for petasites I see that these can get really quite big, and this one of mine has never developed leaves bigger than 4-5 inches across. It does however look like it in most other ways, and so thank you nutcutlet for that.
Thanks again for all of your suggestions, at least I now know my enemy!
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Thanks nutcutlet,
The leaves look really similar, although this one you have found is spikey, and mine are smooth edged. I can't quite remember what the flowers were like, but I don't think they were as nice as these.
It looks like the right family but not the exact same plant
Not borage but in that family Janet4
Borage seeds about but is very easy to remove.
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Janet4, are you thinking of coltsfoot? The white seed heads of that could be mistaken for flowers. I'll see if I can find a pic.
anything like that RF?
I thought the leaves looked a bit roundes for coltsfoot in the pic, mine always look a bit angular.
preceded by these
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The top one still escapes me. There are very few plants with that shaped leaf so it ought to be possible. Maianthemum has it, as does one of the smaller growing Dock (Rubble Dock) and Convolulus arvensis. The latter has small pink,sometimes white flowers and is a ground hugging plant not a climber like Bindweed.
not the convolvulus, all too familiar with that.
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and I don't think the maianthemums are invasive as described by RF
Still looks very petasites to me but a bit small.
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hi rainwater fanatic just looking at your first plant as i have a clump of these and cant get rid of them either i find the snails love to hide in clumps underneath the leaves they pull out very easily but soon come up again with a vengance they have a very palish pink flower that comes up through the leaves,not very nice,but i was told its from the family of scurvy grass and as a wild plant grows naturally in woods,mine grows on a bank,so im going to leave mine and keep pulling it up.
Are the leaves shiny? Bit hard to tell. Cochlearia officinalis is Common Scurvy grass and the leaves are like your but definitely shiny.
Thank you to everyone who has pitched in on this.
Green Alkanet looks like the closest match for the second image, and I think I am going to have to go with petasites for the first. When I searched google images for petasites I see that these can get really quite big, and this one of mine has never developed leaves bigger than 4-5 inches across. It does however look like it in most other ways, and so thank you nutcutlet for that.
Thanks again for all of your suggestions, at least I now know my enemy!
The Butterburr (Petsites) I know grows on river banks and the leaves get huge. That is what had me fooled.