When we got our cat I was worried about the Birds and I was right to worry, cats can be very sadisticall, now our Tom is older he doesn't bother but one year he sat on the lawn and killed every greytit that came out of the nest, we chased him round the garden but couldn't stop him, he has killed baby rabbits and rats, the sparrow hawk in our garden kills a lot of birds but he does it for food, our cat has eaten the bird fethers and bones so they was no proof left, I think he must have been hungry that day. It is one of the down sides of having a Cat.
Myth or not in the past 3 weeks the birds nesting in our front tree gave us a lot of pleasure and laughs while they were deciding whether or not to use the tree, they did and were great to watch,another 2 sparrows made there nest in our Fuchsias tree (Large) in the back part of the garden,they also became very friendly and were nice to have , last week one of the birds in the front was lying dead under the tree also an egg was a couple of feet away, this morning i had to clean a tiny birds body didnt even have any feathers yet of the bench seat near to the nest which is now wrecked and abandoned Kate was very upset as was I, now i know this is nature but if were counting Cats 2 Birds and family 0, It seems to me the only people who get to enjoy the cats dont seem to get there mess, its there neighbors who suffer,and this complaint has been going on since ever and ever , whose responsibility is it ,we all know the answer Sad it happening to so many people.
I used to have a cat. I like most cats. They do poo in gardens. Ours used to poo in our garden, and perhaps elsewhere, but there were places available in our garden as it's responsible to provide for your own cat. It's important to remember that cats are semi-wild really and can't be controlled, but knowing they need somewhere to go owners ought to provide for their needs as mostly they will use their own garden.
Now I don't have a cat but my neighbour does. My neighbours garden is not a garden, it is a patio, entirely. She does not provide the cat with a tray. I think this is irresponsible. But it is not the cats fault. It is the owners. It's probably not worth falling out with my neighbour over though. As it's not the cats fault I don't do anything nasty to the cat. He has a right to live and have somewhere to poo.
Cats like soft soil as they like to cover their poo and piss. Being dry weather this limits where they can go and well kept, watered flower and veg beds are very attractive. What I do is try to encourage him to poo elsewhere. I put down pepper dust around the beds, and I put rose canes over beds as they will then avoid these. That's as unkind as I am willing to go, it works mostly, but sometimes, like today, I find a poo where I don't want one. It is annoying, but it's life.
Hi Phillippa, we'll have to politely disagree I'm afraid. Cats are semi-wild in my opinion and there have been many legal cases through the courts which support this.
They climb fences whereas dogs do not and are generally free roaming and nocturnal. The idea that you can control them is just ignoring the obvious reality of a cats nature. If it were true then the problem wouldn't exist, but it does, unfortunately.
Cats do carry various zoonotics such as toxoplasmosis and bartonella, as well as toxocariasis which is one of the pathogens in dog poo which is one reason why their are rules against owners letting their dogs poo where they please without picking it up. The reason why their isnt a law against owners letting their cats do it is because it is not realistic for owners to stop it, though I would support a law to make owners take responsible precautions such as providing a place for their own pets to go which can be disposed of safely. Till then we can only do what we can to discourage them from using our gardens for their toilet needs.
the dog poo !I remember when we didn't clean it up years and years ago. now we all carry little bags (only if we have dogs off course!)
when did this change? was there a new law?
I don't remember, but am old enough to remember us having a dog and not picking the poo up. how awful!! wouldn't dream of it now.
but cats are different, they don't go on leads.
I tried soaking tea bags in deep heat spray, then burying it where they poo. also anywhere they can hide,put them there.i have 2 ginger cats that come into my garden,but I do have a dog. she doesn't scare them off, theyre too bold, but they don't hang around for long either.
waiting with a water pistle sounds great, but a little difficult to do all day.
wish owners would put bells on all cats too,the ginger cats sit underneath my bird table waiting for the birds.
I don't think cats are intelligent enough to be trained to be honest.
I think you might occasionally get a mild mannered, acquiescent cat that gives the impression of being trained or perhaps if it had influence from weaning then its natural behaviour could be modified in some way.
By and large though cats are the result of irresponsible breeding by careless owners and these cats will more than likely have several homes throughout their lives and no consistency. As a result the cat will behave like a cat- pea brained and wilful and beyond the point of conditioning.
That is all aside from the moral argument of whether they should be conditioned of course.
Really the question is whether they should be allowed freedom to roam or if it should be considered negligent.
Timothy Liery said you can be part of the problem or part of the solution, unless you are me and I am part of the problem and part of the solution, I blame the RSPCA for talking my wife into having the cat.
Morning all, a short time ago we were plagued by the cat problem ,we tried almost everything to deter them but my partner Kate was getting very upset with the mess and damage being done to our garden,long story short after spending hundreds of pounds fencing and such,i stopped them by spraying the ready to use jeyes fluid around our property on the ground and on fences,if Kate planted anything new i sprayed around the plant and newly disturbed soil ,careful not to touch any plants as it does kill them, a little jeyes,understand at no time would we hurt Any animal , But it worked and i watched the next morning as next doors cat on his way to our garden smelled the front path and walked on, in the last year we were there we had only I think 2 mess,s left before it was piles , i sprayed each week then after a month i sprayed only every other month and it worked with no harm to anyone or any cats, where we are now our neighbor has a cat so we tried the friend way and after giving it treats now and again he visits and leaves nothing but a purrrr,so that works now for us but i know and understand how it can upset people So have a great day ,its a grand day erein Norfolk but tomorrow very wet but eh we need it
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When we got our cat I was worried about the Birds and I was right to worry, cats can be very sadisticall, now our Tom is older he doesn't bother but one year he sat on the lawn and killed every greytit that came out of the nest, we chased him round the garden but couldn't stop him, he has killed baby rabbits and rats, the sparrow hawk in our garden kills a lot of birds but he does it for food, our cat has eaten the bird fethers and bones so they was no proof left, I think he must have been hungry that day. It is one of the down sides of having a Cat.
You're lucky he kills rabbits and rats - some cats won't. A bell should scare off the birds, but might have the same effect on the mammals
Holly branches should keep cats off the beds.
Myth or not in the past 3 weeks the birds nesting in our front tree gave us a lot of pleasure and laughs while they were deciding whether or not to use the tree, they did and were great to watch,another 2 sparrows made there nest in our Fuchsias tree (Large) in the back part of the garden,they also became very friendly and were nice to have , last week one of the birds in the front was lying dead under the tree also an egg was a couple of feet away, this morning i had to clean a tiny birds body didnt even have any feathers yet of the bench seat near to the nest which is now wrecked and abandoned Kate was very upset as was I, now i know this is nature but if were counting Cats 2 Birds and family 0, It seems to me the only people who get to enjoy the cats dont seem to get there mess, its there neighbors who suffer,and this complaint has been going on since ever and ever , whose responsibility is it ,we all know the answer Sad it happening to so many people.
I used to have a cat. I like most cats. They do poo in gardens. Ours used to poo in our garden, and perhaps elsewhere, but there were places available in our garden as it's responsible to provide for your own cat. It's important to remember that cats are semi-wild really and can't be controlled, but knowing they need somewhere to go owners ought to provide for their needs as mostly they will use their own garden.
Now I don't have a cat but my neighbour does. My neighbours garden is not a garden, it is a patio, entirely. She does not provide the cat with a tray. I think this is irresponsible. But it is not the cats fault. It is the owners. It's probably not worth falling out with my neighbour over though. As it's not the cats fault I don't do anything nasty to the cat. He has a right to live and have somewhere to poo.
Cats like soft soil as they like to cover their poo and piss. Being dry weather this limits where they can go and well kept, watered flower and veg beds are very attractive. What I do is try to encourage him to poo elsewhere. I put down pepper dust around the beds, and I put rose canes over beds as they will then avoid these. That's as unkind as I am willing to go, it works mostly, but sometimes, like today, I find a poo where I don't want one. It is annoying, but it's life.
Hi Phillippa, we'll have to politely disagree I'm afraid. Cats are semi-wild in my opinion and there have been many legal cases through the courts which support this.
They climb fences whereas dogs do not and are generally free roaming and nocturnal. The idea that you can control them is just ignoring the obvious reality of a cats nature. If it were true then the problem wouldn't exist, but it does, unfortunately.
Cats do carry various zoonotics such as toxoplasmosis and bartonella, as well as toxocariasis which is one of the pathogens in dog poo which is one reason why their are rules against owners letting their dogs poo where they please without picking it up. The reason why their isnt a law against owners letting their cats do it is because it is not realistic for owners to stop it, though I would support a law to make owners take responsible precautions such as providing a place for their own pets to go which can be disposed of safely. Till then we can only do what we can to discourage them from using our gardens for their toilet needs.
the dog poo !I remember when we didn't clean it up years and years ago. now we all carry little bags (only if we have dogs off course!)
when did this change? was there a new law?
I don't remember, but am old enough to remember us having a dog and not picking the poo up. how awful!! wouldn't dream of it now.
but cats are different, they don't go on leads.
I tried soaking tea bags in deep heat spray, then burying it where they poo. also anywhere they can hide,put them there.i have 2 ginger cats that come into my garden,but I do have a dog. she doesn't scare them off, theyre too bold, but they don't hang around for long either.
waiting with a water pistle sounds great, but a little difficult to do all day.
wish owners would put bells on all cats too,the ginger cats sit underneath my bird table waiting for the birds.
I don't think cats are intelligent enough to be trained to be honest.
I think you might occasionally get a mild mannered, acquiescent cat that gives the impression of being trained or perhaps if it had influence from weaning then its natural behaviour could be modified in some way.
By and large though cats are the result of irresponsible breeding by careless owners and these cats will more than likely have several homes throughout their lives and no consistency. As a result the cat will behave like a cat- pea brained and wilful and beyond the point of conditioning.
That is all aside from the moral argument of whether they should be conditioned of course.
Really the question is whether they should be allowed freedom to roam or if it should be considered negligent.
Buy a water pistol put washing up liquid in and bingo youv got rid of the cat
Timothy Liery said you can be part of the problem or part of the solution, unless you are me and I am part of the problem and part of the solution, I blame the RSPCA for talking my wife into having the cat.
Morning all, a short time ago we were plagued by the cat problem ,we tried almost everything to deter them but my partner Kate was getting very upset with the mess and damage being done to our garden,long story short after spending hundreds of pounds fencing and such,i stopped them by spraying the ready to use jeyes fluid around our property on the ground and on fences,if Kate planted anything new i sprayed around the plant and newly disturbed soil ,careful not to touch any plants as it does kill them, a little jeyes,understand at no time would we hurt Any animal , But it worked and i watched the next morning as next doors cat on his way to our garden smelled the front path and walked on, in the last year we were there we had only I think 2 mess,s left before it was piles , i sprayed each week then after a month i sprayed only every other month and it worked with no harm to anyone or any cats, where we are now our neighbor has a cat so we tried the friend way and after giving it treats now and again he visits and leaves nothing but a purrrr,so that works now for us but i know and understand how it can upset people So have a great day ,its a grand day erein Norfolk but tomorrow very wet but eh we need it
Avagooden Alan