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  • SalinoSalino Posts: 1,609

    Re. Gertrude Jekyll...

    ..my experience with this rose is that it flowers from mid-May to mid-June...one month when it is superlative.... it then has a quiet period without flowers for 6 weeks until early August when it flowers profusely for the whole of that month, when it can compete with anything going at that time....

    ...I suggest that it's this quiet period that is affecting your rose right now... it will look dull and not much going on...also very thorny and quite frankly..somewhat boring...  if one is not familiar with it, you could think it dying off...

    ...in my garden when established it would throw out a long climbing shoot during this quiet period... that you can either remove or tie in....

    ..give it another month and you will see it start to shoot again ready for August.... it was this quiet period during the height of summer that was the reason I tired of it..

    ..it was not a continuous flowering rose, but rather one that has 2 distinct periods of flower...

     

  • BusyBBusyB Posts: 87

    Hello, thanks for your comments. Just as a fyi, I've attached photos of the GJ when it arrived, and what happened to it the day after I planted it... I have also included a pic of the LD Braithwaite. There is only one because the buds are progressing well and it looks very healthy.

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     Sorry, for some reason they all seem to be sideways on...

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    Turned it for you, Bev. 

  • BusyBBusyB Posts: 87

    Thanks DavidK. Looks pretty awful doesn't it

  • SalinoSalino Posts: 1,609

    ..oh dear that does look bad... to me it looks as though it wasn't sufficiently soaked before it was planted and perhaps the soil wasn't firmed in well enough...a problem with container grown roses during the height of summer...it looks completely dried out... I would cut off those wilting flowers, make sure it's firmed in the soil and water thoroughly in the evening... at least 2 watering cans full...or hose equivalent, and see if it recovers... the soil there looks quite dry to me... some mulch afterwards would be good too.. but try not to fret, roses are very difficult to kill...

  • BusyBBusyB Posts: 87

    That's the thing Salino; I soaked both sets of roses before planting and incorporated feed into the soil for both. I have also been watering both daily (mindful not to over water) since planting, but the GJ (as you've seen) has not done well at all. LDB seems perfectly happy and some of the buds are about ready to bloom. I'll keep at it though.

  • Salino, you obviously have knowledge & speak sense, but by any stretch of the imagination Bev has good reason too feel disappointed with her purchase. 

    Bev, given the prevailing weather and the condition of your GJ, it would be highly unlikely you will over water it.

  • BusyBBusyB Posts: 87

    Thanks DavidK. I also forgot to mention that although the soil looks particularly dry, it's actually good once turned over. Both roses are in the same "plot" so to speak and I only tend to water the soil the roses are planted in as opposed to the entire area (is that makes sense). BTW, I procured these before we had the bare root conversation, so I think I'll be taking that path next time..

  • SalinoSalino Posts: 1,609

    .well,...it's usually cultural conditions that cause these things...the rose looked fine in the first photo..it seems that since it's been planted that this has occurred... so I don't think it can be a problem with the rose or Austin's in any way.... did you manage to contain all the rootball when you took it out of the pot?...sometimes the compost can fall away and this can be the result.... and I take it there hasn't been any weed killer spraying going on in the vicinity..?

    ...but you are not alone in this...it can happen to any of us...I planted an Austin about a month ago...I have had to water it regularly every since, despite the occasional heavy shower which is useless at this time of year...

    ...despite this, today I had to cut off some wilting flower buds which had faded due to lack of water... it happens at this time of year with newly planted Austin's because their flowers are usually so full of petals... it takes a lot of moisture to keep them going and stop the stems from flopping... I should give it 2 gallon every day until it's established...

    ..I'm sure yours will recover in time...but container grown roses can be tricky subjects to get established at this time of year... don't lose heart..

  • SupernoodleSupernoodle Posts: 954

    Oh poor rose!  I hope it cheers up soon.  

    Grabbed some photos this morning on my new rose bed. Heavy rain due again - only just recovered from last time  -getting flattened and depetalled.  I'm really pleased - think they look good!  Confidence growing!   I don't tend to mention to people that I've go into gardening - I wasn't sure that the current state of the garden matched being owned by a "gardener"!  but I'll start saying now!

    Computer seems to be struggling to upload photos so will be doing piecemeal...

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