These interminable love/hate discussions re presenters and programmes irritate me out of all proportion to their importance. It's obvious we all like different people and want different things from a programme. What else is there to say?
Well for me Monty Don and Chelsea just did not work at all.......the two never went together.......hope they bring AT back next year. Monty is just not a Plants person at all.
I don't see why we can't discuss the merits or otherwise of presenters when their performance is so key to our enjoyment or not of any programme and our desire to learn about how, what and when to do things to make our gardens more beautiful and successful. It can surely also be done without being rude to each other or about the people being discussed.
For me the main problems with GW and Chelsea coverage is that, since AT retired from GW, the programmes have been brought in house to the Beeb where the assorted producers and camera people who are not plant or garden specialists and who are carving out a career in the Beeb more often want to show how clever they are rather than how clever the plants or gardeners are.
When GH and AT were at the helm GW was made by a specialist production company, as is Beechgrove. Their motivation is to make good gardening programmes to satisfy the audience and thus keep the contract, and their careers and incomes, renewed. If a private company had presided over the halving of the core audience, they'd have lost the job whereas the Beeb team that's lost all those GW viewers just carries on regardless.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Sorry some of you expected me to respond immediately, not glued to my computer, far too busy in my very large garden, made even better by Monty's advice!
Dove - given the popularity of gardening and the paucity of gardening programmes across all the many channels on TV and the ease with which they can now be recorded for viewing at a more convenient time I wouldn't expect a drop from over 4 million regular viewers to a peak of 2.32 million to be something to be complacent about.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
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Looked like a WUM right from the start - I said so to a couple of people but didn't want to insult a new poster - however ...........................
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Looked like a wind up to me.
These interminable love/hate discussions re presenters and programmes irritate me out of all proportion to their importance. It's obvious we all like different people and want different things from a programme. What else is there to say?
I'll keep my head down now
In the sticks near Peterborough
Well for me Monty Don and Chelsea just did not work at all.......the two never went together.......hope they bring AT back next year. Monty is just not a Plants person at all.
Well.....you said it Dove, I'm not using that word anymore
I don't see why we can't discuss the merits or otherwise of presenters when their performance is so key to our enjoyment or not of any programme and our desire to learn about how, what and when to do things to make our gardens more beautiful and successful. It can surely also be done without being rude to each other or about the people being discussed.
For me the main problems with GW and Chelsea coverage is that, since AT retired from GW, the programmes have been brought in house to the Beeb where the assorted producers and camera people who are not plant or garden specialists and who are carving out a career in the Beeb more often want to show how clever they are rather than how clever the plants or gardeners are.
When GH and AT were at the helm GW was made by a specialist production company, as is Beechgrove. Their motivation is to make good gardening programmes to satisfy the audience and thus keep the contract, and their careers and incomes, renewed. If a private company had presided over the halving of the core audience, they'd have lost the job whereas the Beeb team that's lost all those GW viewers just carries on regardless.
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Audiences numbers have plummeted across all channels and genres - there is so much more choice nowadays than 10 or even 5 years ago.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Sorry some of you expected me to respond immediately, not glued to my computer, far too busy in my very large garden, made even better by Monty's advice!
Happy gardening in your very large garden.
Dove - given the popularity of gardening and the paucity of gardening programmes across all the many channels on TV and the ease with which they can now be recorded for viewing at a more convenient time I wouldn't expect a drop from over 4 million regular viewers to a peak of 2.32 million to be something to be complacent about.