Verd - that was very naughty....mother in law indeed...
It's the white I want Jim because I don't like the colour of the others Salmony- pinky- orange is a no no for me!
Good luck Duncan. The biggest advantage of Pyracanthas is the wildlife it brings in. In fact, with a bit of luck there'll be loads of bees....that'll keep the little cherubs at bay!
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
My Kiftsgate rose is unstoppable - throws out long wands and grows a mile a minute. The flowers are held in huge lemon-scented clusters, and it is the most violent rose I know. Pruning makes it grow even longer and stronger. Or the old-fashioned American Pillar Rose has equally unpleasant thorns - the sort that reach out to grab you when you're not looking. I suppose you'd need to tie them in to uprights, but nobody in their right mind would think of trying to walk through or even near to these.
As far as anti-social behaviour is concerned, the police have no powers to do anything other than knock on the offenders door and ask them politely not to do it again. A solicitor could bring an injunction... not a happy place to be.
That's the problem ggranny. The police rarely bother anyway, and will do nothing unless there's damage. If you call in lawyers it all gets messy and you just risk retaliation. It's a very sad state we have nowadays when so many people just can't behave in a considerate way, and law abiding decent ones feel helpless
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
What a terrible tale of woe, and not uncommon on this forum, methinks. I have suffered bad neighbours in the past, but more to do with late karaoke parties full of drunks and bad Neil Diamond impressions at 4am.
We then, in calmer daylight hours, sorted a pact and a warning system. If it was too loud, I would bang on the wall and he would turn it down. We became almost friendly, and I got some sleep!
These days, I live in a small hamlet with 4 adjoining neighbours and another close one, all around my back garden. All lovely people. As are the further ones. My young boys are the only kids, other than a wee girl 2 doors down and older kids much further along.
We have other children to play often, and all are read the riot act. Not too much noise, If balls or toys go over the fence, they are lost. (not really, as they are allowed to retrieve them from 4 gardens except in the middle back to which there is a large and spiny hedge) For this garden, they must either go around to ask for the ball back (and the lady of the house is profoundly deaf, so they don't bother any more) or wait until it is thrown back over, which the neighbour does obligingly do, once he sees it. However, his dogs may have seen it first! This has taught my boys to be much more careful of their toys, and I have no problem with this. They have a play area, and know, in no uncertain terms, that boisterous play must be kept there or on the lawn, and away from the very dangerous greenhouse. Any small accidental damage of veg or plants is not looked upon too harshly. My closest neighbours spoil them rotten (and the dog!) and allow them to play in their gardens, too.
Anyway, I know from this site that I have been very lucky in my neighbours all of my life, even when moved to emergency housing in a very bad area, where everyone hated everyone else, we got on ok. Maybe I'm a soft touch, or something, but there is always a way around any problem if you look hard enough. I have never found anyone to be completely unreasonable except the odd hardened drug addict. Perhaps you need to find a soft point? Or offer some small amount of help in some way? In the bad place, I offered to cut the whole of the communal lawn, not just my bit, as it suited me for the kids and I hated seeing it a mess with some bits cut and others not. They thought I was weird, but they were nice to my face at least.
You could try to bore the kids to death. If they want their toy, they have to see the damage they have done, and listen whist you explain how long it took to grow that plant they killed, or insist that they help you to repair the greenhouse. They'll either get bored or interested, either way, they'll get more careful. Or, If you have to hand over balls, pop them with a needle first. If every toy goes back damaged, they will learn. The ball landed in the roses, etc. Whilst they don't care about damaging your property, they will care if their own is damaged whilst on your property. Take up golf, and practice in the direction of their house. No Sorry, that kind of tit for tat should not be encouraged
Anyway, direct confrontation almost never works. one big stick invites a bigger stick. Use stealth and be friendly, however annoyed you feel. It is the best way of disarming people and getting issues resolved. Also use big thorny hedges! That'll keep the wee nasty gobshites out! And any rubbish they throw into your garden, either throw back, or put into a bag and politely place on thier doorstep. If they want their belongings back, let them have them all! Throw the bag over with the toys if diplomacy doesn't work.
Hope you get sorted, and I wish everyone could have the neighbours I have. I know I'm a very lucky girl.
You're right that confrontation and tit-for-tat don't work, and involving the police seems to escalate the problem as neighbours don't like being told off and simply retal;iate with more vigour.
I think tall prickly plants it the best solution, and still favour very prickly rambling roses which can be grown along the fence.
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Could you talk to your Citizens Advice Bureau and or the police about anti-social behaviour.
I've tried but I can't stop them phoning.
Verd - that was very naughty....mother in law indeed...
It's the white I want Jim because I don't like the colour of the others
Salmony- pinky- orange is a no no for me!
Good luck Duncan. The biggest advantage of Pyracanthas is the wildlife it brings in. In fact, with a bit of luck there'll be loads of bees....that'll keep the little cherubs at bay!
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
My Kiftsgate rose is unstoppable - throws out long wands and grows a mile a minute. The flowers are held in huge lemon-scented clusters, and it is the most violent rose I know. Pruning makes it grow even longer and stronger. Or the old-fashioned American Pillar Rose has equally unpleasant thorns - the sort that reach out to grab you when you're not looking. I suppose you'd need to tie them in to uprights, but nobody in their right mind would think of trying to walk through or even near to these.
As far as anti-social behaviour is concerned, the police have no powers to do anything other than knock on the offenders door and ask them politely not to do it again. A solicitor could bring an injunction... not a happy place to be.
That's the problem ggranny. The police rarely bother anyway, and will do nothing unless there's damage. If you call in lawyers it all gets messy and you just risk retaliation. It's a very sad state we have nowadays when so many people just can't behave in a considerate way, and law abiding decent ones feel helpless
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Citizens advice are useless in my area, the police won't get involved unless I give next door a (much needed) good kicking.
I have come up with what I think is quite a good idea. Difficult to explain without pics and I can't figure it out using my phone.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281162610234?_trksid=p2055120.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT this what I'm now looking at for in front of my shed to block off another route into my garden, how easy would it be to keep it to around the 6ft height it comes in??
What a terrible tale of woe, and not uncommon on this forum, methinks. I have suffered bad neighbours in the past, but more to do with late karaoke parties full of drunks and bad Neil Diamond impressions at 4am.
We then, in calmer daylight hours, sorted a pact and a warning system. If it was too loud, I would bang on the wall and he would turn it down. We became almost friendly, and I got some sleep!
These days, I live in a small hamlet with 4 adjoining neighbours and another close one, all around my back garden. All lovely people. As are the further ones. My young boys are the only kids, other than a wee girl 2 doors down and older kids much further along.
We have other children to play often, and all are read the riot act. Not too much noise, If balls or toys go over the fence, they are lost. (not really, as they are allowed to retrieve them from 4 gardens except in the middle back to which there is a large and spiny hedge) For this garden, they must either go around to ask for the ball back (and the lady of the house is profoundly deaf, so they don't bother any more) or wait until it is thrown back over, which the neighbour does obligingly do, once he sees it. However, his dogs may have seen it first! This has taught my boys to be much more careful of their toys, and I have no problem with this. They have a play area, and know, in no uncertain terms, that boisterous play must be kept there or on the lawn, and away from the very dangerous greenhouse. Any small accidental damage of veg or plants is not looked upon too harshly. My closest neighbours spoil them rotten (and the dog!) and allow them to play in their gardens, too.
Anyway, I know from this site that I have been very lucky in my neighbours all of my life, even when moved to emergency housing in a very bad area, where everyone hated everyone else, we got on ok. Maybe I'm a soft touch, or something, but there is always a way around any problem if you look hard enough. I have never found anyone to be completely unreasonable except the odd hardened drug addict. Perhaps you need to find a soft point? Or offer some small amount of help in some way? In the bad place, I offered to cut the whole of the communal lawn, not just my bit, as it suited me for the kids and I hated seeing it a mess with some bits cut and others not. They thought I was weird, but they were nice to my face at least.
You could try to bore the kids to death. If they want their toy, they have to see the damage they have done, and listen whist you explain how long it took to grow that plant they killed, or insist that they help you to repair the greenhouse. They'll either get bored or interested, either way, they'll get more careful. Or, If you have to hand over balls, pop them with a needle first. If every toy goes back damaged, they will learn. The ball landed in the roses, etc. Whilst they don't care about damaging your property, they will care if their own is damaged whilst on your property. Take up golf, and practice in the direction of their house. No Sorry, that kind of tit for tat should not be encouraged
Anyway, direct confrontation almost never works. one big stick invites a bigger stick. Use stealth and be friendly, however annoyed you feel. It is the best way of disarming people and getting issues resolved. Also use big thorny hedges! That'll keep the wee nasty gobshites out! And any rubbish they throw into your garden, either throw back, or put into a bag and politely place on thier doorstep. If they want their belongings back, let them have them all! Throw the bag over with the toys if diplomacy doesn't work.
Hope you get sorted, and I wish everyone could have the neighbours I have. I know I'm a very lucky girl.
I always go to sleep at Downton Abbey, Jim
I hadn't realised how common this problem is!
You're right that confrontation and tit-for-tat don't work, and involving the police seems to escalate the problem as neighbours don't like being told off and simply retal;iate with more vigour.
I think tall prickly plants it the best solution, and still favour very prickly rambling roses which can be grown along the fence.