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Dying Rowan tree

Hi, my Rowan tree appears to be dying. I think the leaves actually started to go brown during the summer, and whilst all the other Rowan trees on my street have now shed their leaves, our tree is still covered in brown withered leaves. Also the trunk has developed an orange pattern on it i.e. patches of the trunk have gone an orange colour. I am an inexperienced gardener so I have no idea how to treat it!? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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  • This is the trunk...
  • Thanks for your help Pansyface. I'll check that out. Hopefully someone will be able to offer further advice. Thanks again.
  • That trunk doesn't look great... is there honey fungus in your area?  Rowans are very susceptible.  It killed 3 rowans in our garden, but the toadstools didn't appear until the year after each tree died.
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • If @Fairygirl is about she might have an idea … she’s pretty hot on row and. 😊 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Liriodendron... I'm afraid I don't know much about gardening but I'll check out honey fungus. Thanks for your help. Very much appreciated.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I had a prompt from a PM about this, but I'm not sure there's much I can add. I've not seen that kind of effect on any rowan - they just grow here without much problem. 
    Two things stood out for me in the photo though, apart from the bark/trunk. The huge pole/stake nearby, and the general ground it's planted in. How is the trunk attached to the stake? The most common problems often occur due to physical damage to limbs, causing infections to get in. That can be a too tight tree tie, or a strimmer/mower catching bark at the base, or similar. 
    Can you give us a couple of photos from further out @catherinemelvin141147
    Plus - a bit more info re how the ground was prepped for planting, how long the tree's been there, and a rough idea of your location/climate?
    All these things can give a better overview, and honey fungus or fireblight are certainly a possibility, but rotting is always possible if there's a solid area of ground lower down, affecting drainage. They'll take any amount of rain, but there has to be reasonable enough drainage to avoid long term waterlogging. Leaves turning brown early are usually from drought, but it can also be the opposite situation. 

    I've never seen fireblight on any rowans, or on other susceptible woody shrubs/trees, so I can't tell if it's that. Never had honey fungus round here either, but sometimes there are no obvious reasons for plants of any kind failing. It might just be 'one of those things'. Sorry if that isn't terribly encouraging. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,630
    edited December 2023
    From your description I think it could be Fire blight. 
    And the trunk looks like the orangey patches that comes with the disease.
    Also your description of the leaves being dead and hanging on.

    I can't remember it exactly but we had a Pyracantha, which are known to be susceptible. It had branches which initially appeared to be covered in leaves which went brown /died, and looked as if they had been scorched or burned completely which stayed on the the plant.
    And patches of orangey bark which shows very obviously against a grey trunk. 
    I cut out the bad ones but it repeatedly succumbed. Under the bark was also brown orangey streaks. 

    I think from the main trunk it is already looking bad whatever it is.
    Sorry to also not be very encouraging.

    You might try looking up Sorbus disease images or fire blight sorbus bark.
    It may come up with corroborating images I had a quick look but no  perfect match. But some apple trees with similar colouring came up. 

    Wait and see what it looks like in spring.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I think it's the most likely explanation @Rubytoo, having had a little search to see what it looks like. Scorched looking bark and browning, limp foliage - just as the OP describes. Apparently apples can be prone as well, according to the link I found.

    I've had scab on Pyracantha - another shrub which is susceptible to fireblight, but certainly not fireblight. Quinces, Hawthorn, Whitebeam [the other type of Sorbus] and Cotoneaster are also vulnerable apparently - all shrubs/trees which grow without problem here.  It seems to be mainly south of the border though, which is probably why I've never seen it.

    I don't think you can get rid of it unfortunately - affected parts have to be removed and burned. 

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • @Fairygirl and @rubytoo ... Thanks so much for your help. I'll take some more photos tomorrow and load them on here.
  • Apologies for the delay. Here are the photos I promised. I've tried to include the whole tree from different aspects. I hope these suffice. The strap on the bottom of the tree how now been cut away but it wasn't particularly tight on the tree.
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