@adriennepratt1XavD-ucV, have you considered buying a roll or two of bamboo or larch fencing to cover up your breezeblock wall whilst your plants are establishing. It's quick and easy and lasts for quite a few years. I've used it on our similar wall to hide it. The other option would be to paint it.
Personally I wouldn't plant a wisteria anywhere near your garden, they can grow very big, very fast when established and need very careful pruning twice a year to get them to flower well.
I'm a bit doubtful about your other climbers as well, particularly on your fences as it will be difficult to keep them on your side, climbers have a tendency to want to push through fence slats, especially if there is sunshine on the other side. You might want to consider some tallish perennials instead at intervals along the fences. The beds themselves ought to be a minimum of half a metre wide.
You can get large wicker panels that could cover the wall quite nicely. it would get around panic planting. You can then take your time considering what you really want and like and what would work best in the space.
I think you have far too many plants for the size of the space. One climber will easily cover that wall - and more. If you want the jasmine, and if it will suit your climate, you could certainly grow a clematis with it as @Pete.8 describes. I wouldn't keep the 2x wisteria and honeysuckles, because you have they're just too much for the area you have. If the house wall is suitable, you could possibly have a wisteria there, but I'm guessing it probably isn't a suitable site either, size wise. Clematis for the fences would be easier because you can get smaller varieties which will behave better than either of those plants. The small flowered early ones are ideal - not montanas though, as they're vigorous -just like honeysuckles. Alternatively, make a border along one of them, maybe curving round from the back wall, and fill it with a mix of shrubs and perennials. A clem on the other fence, or something like pyracantha or cotoneaster, which will hide it, but can be freestanding rather than attached.
Sweet peas will be fine in with spring bulbs. They need a lot of food and water, and are slug fodder when small, so they're best grown on first before planting out. If you have tulips, they won't work so well because they'll get too wet in with sweet peas. Keep those for a pot or another area that's free draining
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Thank you again to you all for your fabulous advice. I had certainly considered covering the wall with panels (I DREAM of larch!), but found it was all very expensive indeed, well over 1,000 euros even for pretty basic fencing panels. On a quick Google just now, though, I found these, which would cost 200 in total, definitely affordable: https://www.thegardenshop.ie/willow-screen/ There's even cheaper reed and bamboo ones. Would this type of thing work, though? What I'm confused about is how this works in with the jasmine trellis. Obviously I can fit the trellis on top of the panels, but what happens medium/long-term? The panels are going to reduce the space for the jasmine, and of course they are going to decay over time. Is that a problem ultimately? Thanks!
On the creeper advice, I definitely hear you about the rambunctious clem montana and the wisteria. (Boy do I have a lot of useless creepers in my garden alley now ) I do, however, wonder if say the honeysuckle will still be okay on the west-facing fence (100m vine eye wire trells)? I REALLY like the honeysuckle (gold flame). As a west-facing location perhaps it wouldn't be too much of a battle to keep it on my side? (and I wouldn't be surprised if the neighbours were quite happy with it anyway). I have two so perhaps I could consult with the neighbours on the east side and see how they'd feel about it growing through, as I see that honeysuckle can also work in partial shade. Or would I get no flowers on my side?
I forgot to say that I also bought 3 flowering quince on my friend's advice, to place in front of the originally planned virginia creeper and ivy wall. It seems like this may also have been a rather bad idea. Flowers look fabulous but perhaps the rest of the time of limited attractivenes, and quite a large spread. Any thoughts?
Personally I would possibly paint the wall and then mount small-squared timber trellis onto it - the wall will be much less obvious and oppressive then!
Agree re Clematis montana, not good, they tend to end up with a mass of growth at the top and then bare stems underneath, similar with C. armandii. Pete.8's clematis, or a similar type 3, would work well though. I would not rule out Ivy - it would have the benefit of covering up your neighbour's walls as well - a small leaved variety like 'Ivalace' would work nicely I think.
"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour".
I've never grown honeysuckle other than up an old dead tree, but it does grow fast. It is very easy to cut back though. I seem to remember it got mildew most years too, but it had no care or water from me which was probably the cause of the mildew.
I wouldn't have flowering quince. You don't have huge garden where it can be part of a scheme and tucked out the way. I had one. Lovely flowers in the spring then a few yellow fruits in the autumn, but in between it's of little interest and looks a bit messy.
Another idea to cover the wall whilst you're waiting for your Jasmine to grow- I used to grow runner beans on wires on a fence in my garden, but you'd need to keep them away from the Jasmine as they grow very fast.
The soil in the bed should have some stuff dug in if you haven't already regardless of what you're planting. Rotted manure is best.
Billericay - Essex
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Does the friend have a vested interest in the sale of the plants! They seem very keen for you to have far more plants than is needed, or indeed advisable for a small garden.
Quinces are best as part of a wider shrub, or mixed, border. It would be very odd to have them in a row in front of climbers on a wall, in the way you describe. They can also get quite big, and there are better shrubs if you want a longer display. Honeysuckles are best grown up trees as @Pete.8 says, or over buildings - sheds, garages etc. They aren't really ideal for a fence as they're messy, scrambly climbers, unlike those that are more easily trained and tamed, ie clematis, roses etc. If you're vigilant, I expect one would be ok on a fence, but you'd have to keep an eye on it, and the fence may not be sturdy enough if it's allowed to get big.
If you mean adding trellis to the top of the fences, just be aware that you'd have to be the owner of the fences. There are also height restrictions on them, so it might be a good idea to check all of that first.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Hello again everyone, the garden centre actually took back all the plants I didn't want to keep, I was amazed and extremely impressed. Exchanged them for two 170cm jasmines and a purple Group 2 clematis for the wall and have kept 2 honeysuckles (at least one allegedly compact). I just couldn't resist the honeysuckle, find it so beautiful. Will train along fences, try to keep under control and hope for the best.
So, trellis time again, and I need to decide whether to go with galvanised wire, garden twine (best according to RHS), or Gripple. Would appreciate advice. Twine such an easy solution but presumably only for smaller plants? Gripple seems better than those fiddly screw things for wire, but would prefer wire visually and also saw that one can potentially just turn the vine eye to tighten wire? If wire, what diameter?
I found the Gripple system dead-easy to install and if the 'wire' needs tightening it's simply a matter of just pulling the end of the wire and the locking mechanism keeps it in place. I've not yet needed to re-tighten any of the 3 Gripple installations I have around the garden that I put in around 2017
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Personally I wouldn't plant a wisteria anywhere near your garden, they can grow very big, very fast when established and need very careful pruning twice a year to get them to flower well.
I'm a bit doubtful about your other climbers as well, particularly on your fences as it will be difficult to keep them on your side, climbers have a tendency to want to push through fence slats, especially if there is sunshine on the other side. You might want to consider some tallish perennials instead at intervals along the fences. The beds themselves ought to be a minimum of half a metre wide.
Good luck with your project.
One climber will easily cover that wall - and more.
If you want the jasmine, and if it will suit your climate, you could certainly grow a clematis with it as @Pete.8 describes. I wouldn't keep the 2x wisteria and honeysuckles, because you have they're just too much for the area you have. If the house wall is suitable, you could possibly have a wisteria there, but I'm guessing it probably isn't a suitable site either, size wise.
Clematis for the fences would be easier because you can get smaller varieties which will behave better than either of those plants. The small flowered early ones are ideal - not montanas though, as they're vigorous -just like honeysuckles. Alternatively, make a border along one of them, maybe curving round from the back wall, and fill it with a mix of shrubs and perennials. A clem on the other fence, or something like pyracantha or cotoneaster, which will hide it, but can be freestanding rather than attached.
Sweet peas will be fine in with spring bulbs. They need a lot of food and water, and are slug fodder when small, so they're best grown on first before planting out. If you have tulips, they won't work so well because they'll get too wet in with sweet peas. Keep those for a pot or another area that's free draining
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
https://www.thegardenshop.ie/willow-screen/
There's even cheaper reed and bamboo ones.
Would this type of thing work, though? What I'm confused about is how this works in with the jasmine trellis. Obviously I can fit the trellis on top of the panels, but what happens medium/long-term? The panels are going to reduce the space for the jasmine, and of course they are going to decay over time. Is that a problem ultimately? Thanks!
I forgot to say that I also bought 3 flowering quince on my friend's advice, to place in front of the originally planned virginia creeper and ivy wall. It seems like this may also have been a rather bad idea. Flowers look fabulous but perhaps the rest of the time of limited attractivenes, and quite a large spread. Any thoughts?
Thank you again so much!
Agree re Clematis montana, not good, they tend to end up with a mass of growth at the top and then bare stems underneath, similar with C. armandii. Pete.8's clematis, or a similar type 3, would work well though. I would not rule out Ivy - it would have the benefit of covering up your neighbour's walls as well - a small leaved variety like 'Ivalace' would work nicely I think.
It is very easy to cut back though.
I seem to remember it got mildew most years too, but it had no care or water from me which was probably the cause of the mildew.
I wouldn't have flowering quince.
You don't have huge garden where it can be part of a scheme and tucked out the way.
I had one.
Lovely flowers in the spring then a few yellow fruits in the autumn, but in between it's of little interest and looks a bit messy.
Another idea to cover the wall whilst you're waiting for your Jasmine to grow-
I used to grow runner beans on wires on a fence in my garden, but you'd need to keep them away from the Jasmine as they grow very fast.
The soil in the bed should have some stuff dug in if you haven't already regardless of what you're planting.
Rotted manure is best.
Billericay - Essex
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Quinces are best as part of a wider shrub, or mixed, border. It would be very odd to have them in a row in front of climbers on a wall, in the way you describe. They can also get quite big, and there are better shrubs if you want a longer display.
Honeysuckles are best grown up trees as @Pete.8 says, or over buildings - sheds, garages etc. They aren't really ideal for a fence as they're messy, scrambly climbers, unlike those that are more easily trained and tamed, ie clematis, roses etc. If you're vigilant, I expect one would be ok on a fence, but you'd have to keep an eye on it, and the fence may not be sturdy enough if it's allowed to get big.
If you mean adding trellis to the top of the fences, just be aware that you'd have to be the owner of the fences. There are also height restrictions on them, so it might be a good idea to check all of that first.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Hello again everyone, the garden centre actually took back all the plants I didn't want to keep, I was amazed and extremely impressed. Exchanged them for two 170cm jasmines and a purple Group 2 clematis for the wall and have kept 2 honeysuckles (at least one allegedly compact). I just couldn't resist the honeysuckle, find it so beautiful. Will train along fences, try to keep under control and hope for the best.
So, trellis time again, and I need to decide whether to go with galvanised wire, garden twine (best according to RHS), or Gripple. Would appreciate advice. Twine such an easy solution but presumably only for smaller plants? Gripple seems better than those fiddly screw things for wire, but would prefer wire visually and also saw that one can potentially just turn the vine eye to tighten wire? If wire, what diameter?
Sorry for the extreme beginner questions!
I've not yet needed to re-tighten any of the 3 Gripple installations I have around the garden that I put in around 2017
Billericay - Essex
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.