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Smelly bonfire smoke - pollution, health implications

Several times in the last ten days, bonfire smoke has blown into the atmosphere very close to my garden. This has happened at various times between 9am and midnight. Some bonfires have smouldered for hours. Would this be unacceptable to you? The pollution is really getting to me. During this September heatwave it happened twice between 10:30 and 16:00. Coupled with the humidity and 30°c temperature from the sun, this has been unbearable. Is it legal or socially acceptable to have bonfires going in neighbourhoods?
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    edited September 2023
    I believe in many areas there are restrictions on any kind of 'burning', other than a barbecue, so it could be worth contacting your council.
    It would probably help if you had details of exactly where they are though, but that might be very difficult. 
    It certainly isn't ideal if plants, and especially woodland, is tinder dry.  :/
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    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Personally, I love the smell of bonfires and they invoke for me wonderful childhood memories of scout camps and November 5th celebrations. Nor would I have any qualms about the occasional inhalation of smoke.

    But I accept others think differently and it is very anti social of your neighbours to be having fires during this mini heatwave. I take it they were garden bonfires and not barbecues which would put a different slant on it.

    I probably have about two bonfires a year, always choosing a calm day with cool, dull grey weather - a day when nobody would be sitting in their garden and no washing would be pegged out.
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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited September 2023
    Are bonfires legal where you are? Probably.  In the UK we are not allowed to burn household "waste" and we are instructed not to be a "nuisance". Parks, public spaces and some allotments prohibit fires.


    We have had some local neighbour battles about bonfires, bbqs and wood stoves - but they are allowed. We usually just counsel to be considerate to others near by. I live in a valley do smoke doesn't really dissipate and it gets on people's nerves.

    Mum's For Lungs are campaigning to have recreational (non-essential) wood burning banned.

    The smell I can't stand is burning plastic or treated wood. A NDN burnt her whole shed during the first lockdown as the dump was closed. Choking black smoke poured out of her garden for weeks. Ugg. Luckily it was a one off. Month.



  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Bonfires are allowed around here too but it's rare to see or smell one these days - mostly indoor log burners now.
    Like @BenCotto i used to love the smell of bonfires in the autumn in years gone by. Some were smoky sweet and very aromatic, but obviously not very healthy. The aroma of burning leaves and wood signalled winter was not far away.

    Much like all the Christmas cards that were being put out in a general store I was in earlier. I know the owner and asked why in early Sept - because customers have been asking for them, she told me.


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  • As a young man in my 20's, I used to enjoy having a bonfire at the end of the garden. At that time, councils didn't arrange collection of bulky items, so anything we wanted to dispose of, got broken up and burned. Old wood from the garden went the same way.

    Nowadays, councils collect, including garden rubbish. Plus, I think more of us have greater awareness of the pollution and health issues.

    This doesn't always apply to immigrants. They have to be educated.
    Sadly there are also educated people who just decide they'll pollute anyhow.

    I think some bonfires should be permitted, away from neighbours' boundaries, and wind direction should be taken into consideration.
    Plastics and chemicals should be avoided.

    Bonfires ought only to be permitted after dark. 

    But the laws are different, in different areas.
  • The number of people who will happily sit in their vehicles with the engine running whilst they chat/text or WHY seems to suggest that they are unaware of any exhaust/noise pollution issues.  I don't know whether or not they bitch about the cost of vehicle fuel ? 
    BBQ's can be annoying - especially if you are feeling peckish and not invited to attend  ;)   Bonfires are OK if you are actually burning dry stuff - those who leave stuff to smoulder for hours/days on end creating a nuisance for others need to learn how to do it correctly.
  • I wonder if many people know (or care!) that it’s illegal to leave your car engine idling on a public road, detailed below:


    Also known as stationary idling, Section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 prohibits leaving your engine on when it is not needed. This act enforces Rule 123 of the Highway Code, which states “you must not leave a vehicle’s engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road”.

    If you do leave your engine idle, you could face a fine upwards of £20, or £80 in areas of London – as per the Road Traffic (Vehicle Emissions) Regulations of 2002.

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    In my experience, re the car idling, they don't give a flying **** @Plantminded :|
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Same with using mobile phones while driving @Fairygirl!
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • Bonfires have been illegal in Ireland since 2009.  In a way I can see the point - reducing air pollution - but it doesn't make a huge amount of sense, when so many people still have open fires on which they burn wood and peat.  
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
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