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Self-supporting perennials

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  • SalixGoldSalixGold Posts: 450
    edited July 2023
    C. Poppies are annuals. My Verbena B falls all over the place, even in planted sandy soil. With lots of rain and wind I would imagine they would be a pain. I've not tried oriental poppies.
  • msqingxiaomsqingxiao Posts: 482
    We are on clay soil. I can only say that the things that definitely flop here are: VB, gaura, yarrow, hollyhocks (the odd stem). 

    Things that seem to be faring better: Phlox, geum (Mrs Bradshaw), tree lilies, salvia
  • Eupatorium.
    Southampton 
  • borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
    For this question, I would highly recommend Piet Udolf's book Dream Plants for the Natural Garden.  He lists perennials under various classifications from "Tough" meaning hardy and reliable to "Troublesome". One of his pet hates seems to be plants that need staking, so these don't generally make it into the "Tough" section.
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    I'd agree, Eupatorium "Chocolate",  Verbena Bonariensis, and the Veronica "Royal Candle" are okay with me , but it does seem subjective.

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    It depends which salvias. I have to tie up Nemorosas.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • SalixGoldSalixGold Posts: 450
    Shrubby upright Salvias (more bush than perennials, but hey) - microphylla like the Lips series, Bumble, the So Cool series, Trelissick, Melen etc. I wouldn't recommend Blue Note, Nachtvlinder or those kind of sprawling types.

  • Penstemons, sedums, crocosmia.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Penstemons are good here, but crocosmia and Rozanne have metal rings around them.
    I never feed the ground but do pile on lots of home made compost in the winter. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Songbird-2Songbird-2 Posts: 2,349
    I've had to stake up our Crocosmia for the last two years. They now reach the top of our six foot high fence. At the moment they are leaning precariously to one side because of the winds despite being staked😕
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