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  • M33R4M33R4 Posts: 291
    Here are pics of mine which are shoots off a 20+ year old Pyra





    I wish I could garden all year round!
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I also grow lots of pyracantha @M33R4, but the OP's pix don't look the same to me. It looks very like blackthorn growth, which isn't glossy. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • M33R4M33R4 Posts: 291
    Fairygirl said:
    I also grow lots of pyracantha @M33R4, but the OP's pix don't look the same to me. It looks very like blackthorn growth, which isn't glossy. 
    I guess waiting for the black fruits may confirm its identity right?
    I wish I could garden all year round!
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Indeed, but if it's blackthorn, it's worth getting it out if it's in a border. If it's blackthorn it would already have flowered, whereas it's a bit early for Pyracantha.
    The former isn't evergreen wither, so if @matt.clayton can give us more info, that will help too.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    It does look like suckers.  From the speed of growth aslo.  I would check what is growing in your neighbour's garden.

    Can you give us a scale for the leaf size please?
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    @Fairygirl.   Have to disagree about the Blackthorn already flowered,  ours is barely out now up here,  bit more on the lower grounds though,  but still only just out. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Thanks all for comments. The leaf is 2.5cm long. The tree/plant has not flowered. It's very rapid growing next to driveway so will need to be dug up regardless. So from comments, it's either Blackthorn or Pyracantha?
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I should have been more exact @Lyn - blackthorn is just starting to flower now - in the last week or so. Little bit earlier than usual I'd say, but all the hawthorn is several weeks early in greening up. It's not usually starting to green up until about now, and the flowers aren't around until mid May or so.  
    Very weird, but the weather has been very warm, and dry here, despite the wintery stuff and frosts in the last few days. A mild winter again. Perhaps that's going to be the norm here. I'll have to move further north  ;)

    @matt.clayton - pyracantha isn't that rapid, so it's far more likely to be blackthorn. They both have white flowers and then berries later in the year - blackthorn is where you get sloes from, so if you like gin - you're in there   :D
    Pyracantha can have red, yellow or orange berries depending on variety. Both are great for birds and pollinators.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited April 2023
    If the answer you want is just that the "tree" is not something you wish to keep, then you probably have all the infomation you need.  

    For the record, blackthorn (aka sloe) has had a funny season in the UK's soft under-belly.   Some flowered weeks back, then a pause and now others are at their peak.  In Roger Phillips wild flower book, I find time of flowering helpul, but it is not a definitive identifier.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • DaveGreigDaveGreig Posts: 189
    I agree with the Blackthorn contingent. It makes very nice knobbly walking sticks.
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