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Can anyone identify this tree?

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  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    edited March 2023
    KJA said:
    Papi Jo said:
    Prunus lusitanica?

    I think you are right.  I've just been looking at them online and that is exactly what it looks like.

    Thank you so much.
    I am then miles out on the size of the leaves in your pics.

    Please can you check.
    Do the size of leaves on mystery shrub match with description below

    Quote from link below.....
    "Prunus lusitanica....
     Leaves ovate or oval, 21⁄2 to 5 in. long, 11⁄4 to 2 in. wide, quite glabrous on both surfaces, very dark, glossy green above, paler below, shallowly roundish toothed. "

    https://www.treesandshrubsonline.org/articles/prunus/prunus-lusitanica/

    https://www.google.com/search?q=prunus+lusitanica+leaf&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj__IbfuoT-AhXxsEwKHeKvBMsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=Prunus+lusitanica+leaf&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgUIABCABDoKCAAQigUQsQMQQzoICAAQgAQQsQM6BggAEAgQHjoECAAQHlCzBljUEmDMIWgAcAB4AIABbYgB2ASSAQMzLjOYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=fuwlZP_FMPHhsgLi35LYDA&bih=595&biw=1280&client=firefox-b-d
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • KJAKJA Posts: 16
    KJA said:
    Papi Jo said:
    Prunus lusitanica?

    I think you are right.  I've just been looking at them online and that is exactly what it looks like.

    Thank you so much.
    I am then miles out on the size of the leaves in your pics.

    Please can you check.
    Do the size of leaves on mystery shrub match with description below

    Quote from link below.....
    "Prunus lusitanica....
     Leaves ovate or oval, 21⁄2 to 5 in. long, 11⁄4 to 2 in. wide, quite glabrous on both surfaces, very dark, glossy green above, paler below, shallowly roundish toothed. "

    https://www.treesandshrubsonline.org/articles/prunus/prunus-lusitanica/

    https://www.google.com/search?q=prunus+lusitanica+leaf&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj__IbfuoT-AhXxsEwKHeKvBMsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=Prunus+lusitanica+leaf&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgUIABCABDoKCAAQigUQsQMQQzoICAAQgAQQsQM6BggAEAgQHjoECAAQHlCzBljUEmDMIWgAcAB4AIABbYgB2ASSAQMzLjOYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=fuwlZP_FMPHhsgLi35LYDA&bih=595&biw=1280&client=firefox-b-d
    I’ll check the tree when I go into the office next week and update you. 
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    Maybe just knock on and ask the person who owns it . They might be pleased you admire it ……..or is that not the ‘ done’ thing ? 
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    bcpathome said:
    Maybe just knock on and ask the person who owns it . They might be pleased you admire it ……..or is that not the ‘ done’ thing ? 
    I have done it many times..especially when abroad.

    People passing my wee garden are always stopping to ask me the name of my plants.

    Do try asking.
    Or beg a big single leaf so we can see size..get scale with hand or ruler in a pic.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited March 2023
    Don't rush into Portuguese laurel.  Mine doesn't look like that.

    Something in the pics to give an idea of scale would be helpful.  A general thought, not just this thread.

    I'm thinking Sarcocca, but not confusa.

    It has the look of a holly species, especially the new growth. (rather early perhaps)

    Pittosporum anybody?

    Asking the owners or other locals is a good idea.  Much better tha a forum.  Grockles used to admire a parsley plant in my 1/2mwide cottage front "garden' in a Devon village.  The locals too, being farming stock, they liked the idea of an incomers garden being functional, not just city pretty-pretty.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    edited March 2023
    There are a few species of Sarcococca.
    All have glossy evergreen leaves...and miniscule flowers
    I find it hard to id one from another.
    I grow several different ones.

    This is Sarcococca hookeriana digyna
    This is Sarcococca ruscifolia chinensis...it has red berries.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    edited March 2023
    A few of the leaves on that plant are showing evidence of shot hole disease which is common in Portuguese laurel.  I wonder whether it might be the narrower leaved variety, Prunus Lusitanica Myrtifolia, which also has green petioles rather than reddish ones. The plant is also growing in a container which Portuguese laurel won’t like and would be a likely cause of the shot hole disease.
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • KJAKJA Posts: 16
    bcpathome said:
    Maybe just knock on and ask the person who owns it . They might be pleased you admire it ……..or is that not the ‘ done’ thing ? 
    I’m not sure what you mean by not the ‘ done’ thing, but it’s a commercial property/government building, so you can’t just walk in. I would have tried that first if it was an option. 
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    KJA said:
    bcpathome said:
    Maybe just knock on and ask the person who owns it . They might be pleased you admire it ……..or is that not the ‘ done’ thing ? 
    I’m not sure what you mean by not the ‘ done’ thing, but it’s a commercial property/government building, so you can’t just walk in. I would have tried that first if it was an option. 
    Workers/visitors  will be going in and out all the time.
    Unless there are guards on the gate I would just walk in , take a clear close up and walk out again. Maybe steal a single larger leaf to get scale for further pics when out on the street again. 2 mins..done.

    I have done this on more than one occasion.
    Never been challenged.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • KJAKJA Posts: 16
    KJA said:
    bcpathome said:
    Maybe just knock on and ask the person who owns it . They might be pleased you admire it ……..or is that not the ‘ done’ thing ? 
    I’m not sure what you mean by not the ‘ done’ thing, but it’s a commercial property/government building, so you can’t just walk in. I would have tried that first if it was an option. 
    Workers/visitors  will be going in and out all the time.
    Unless there are guards on the gate I would just walk in , take a clear close up and walk out again. Maybe steal a single larger leaf to get scale for further pics when out on the street again. 2 mins..done.

    I have done this on more than one occasion.
    Never been challenged.
    Here are some closer images of the leaves.
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