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  • We simply have to be prepared to learn new techniques … if we can’t perhaps we should not be selfish, and instead be prepared not to grow plants that damage this particular environment. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • peat does not oxidize spontaneously to form CO2 when dug up, it's the small amount of CO2 released from the water as it dries out is where people who don't understand the science are being misled by so called experts who should know better, as in the whole climate change misinformation. 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    So you are a climate change denier too, are you?
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I think it's best if we all just ignore this thread now. It'll drop down out of sight unless the OP wants to talk to themselves.
    You can't reason with unreasonable people  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I know you are right, @Fairygirl, but sometimes I have to play.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • i am not a climate change denier, but i do think the whole climate change debate is being worked and milked by people who should know better, the worst thing that's happened to the planet is the deforestation of tropical forests, Brazil, Pakistan Vietnam, etc etc and not all to do with CO2 of which Britain produces very little, think Chhina, Russia, India, USA, and were bothered about a bit of peat that is beneficial to so many.
  • you seem to have lost how to debate, you put down reasonable argument but don't have any answers to debate with, you've all lost the plot, explain why after my last post we shouldn't be allowed to use a little peat in gardening?
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I think OP has made an important first step here. The key to tackling misinformation is to step outside of your echo chambers and try to break the cycle. The second step is harder as it involves listening to other people's opinions and opening your mind to the possibility that you could be wrong. This can be difficult if you've come from a place where everyone agrees with you but it's important to be wrong and understanding why you were wrong is the best way to learn. Good luck OP. You've got a long road ahead but don't give up now. 
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    As I said earlier- it's been debated at length on this forum [and others ] . I don't think making daft comments about growing rhodos is very helpful, and certainly doesn't make the opinions and statements of the OP sound knowledgeable or informed.
     
    No one posting here can change the peat situation. You'd have to lobby parliament or something..

    ..and that's definitely the last comment I'm making.
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    you seem to have lost how to debate, you put down reasonable argument but don't have any answers to debate with, you've all lost the plot, explain why after my last post we shouldn't be allowed to use a little peat in gardening?
    The UK outsources its CO2 emissions to other countries. The majority of our high-carbon manufacturing is done elsewhere in the world and then shipped over long distances to get to us. None of this is attributed to the emissions data for the UK though. Our demand for stuff helps drive deforestation elsewhere in the world.
    'A little peat' is actually 2.21 million m3 per year on average and can't be replaced as quickly as it's being used. You also ignore the loss of vital ecosystems and flood prevention in your side of the 'debate'. Loss of peatland is just as bad as deforestation.


    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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