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  • As far as I'm aware, it's impossible to "farm" peat "sustainably".  That would be like "sustainable open cast coal mining"...
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • Fairygirl said:
    Interesting @Liriodendron. It does make you wonder who tots up the figures, doesn't it?
    It's like that saying about statistics - 'there's lies, damned lies, and statistics'  ;)

    One of the most famous outlets for rhodos @Dovefromabove :)
    Exactly @Fairygirl ... if they say the peat free stuff is ok for rhodos, then it is.  👍

    Makes me wonder which axe the OP is grinding... 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    There's apparently a method of 'farming' it from water run off when it's being processed  @Liriodendron, but I believe it's very expensive. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • That's the sort I used to buy years ago, @Fairygirl - Moorland Gold.  I'd hardly describe it as farming though.  It's a waste product extracted from the filters in reservoirs... and yes, it's very expensive.  So it should be, as a limited resource, IMO.
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • Its ok for UK farmers to drain peat bogs is it, its ok to use peat in pharmaceuticals, whisky, protein, preparations, medicines, growth stimulants, cosmetics, water and gas purification, building materials and heating, but not 1% in gardening, peat is a renewable resource and regrows (up to 30m/m per annum) quicker than it is farmed sustainably. Eco warriors and the green agenda don't seem to be able to understand the science and only want their own way all the time 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Ok @pauty141-aoxdmNG. We've all heard it a thousand times before, so it's not a new topic   :)

    I know what you mean @Liriodendron- I chose the wrong word in saying farming, but I just remembered someone mentioning it on here a while ago, so I thought I'd mention it. I don't think I've ever seen it for sale here. I'd agree with you though - it would probably be a valuable resource and should only used for specific reasons. I wasn't aware of how much of it there would be either, although I expect it wouldn't be a huge amount? 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • I think you're right, @Fairygirl, that the total quantity of peat available as a byproduct of filtration systems in reservoirs, will be small... it's only reservoirs in upland areas which will produce it.  I only saw it for sale in west Yorks.

    There's clearly no point engaging with @pauty141-aoxdmNG because his figures are wrong.  Unless he can give links to back up his claims I think he's best ignored - nothing I've found on the internet gives any credence to his views.  
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Indeed @Liriodendron. My comment directed at the OP is the last one I'm sending in their direction.
    It would be interesting to find out the actual amount gained in that method we mentioned. Not sure how easy it would be to find out though.  :)

    The famous Flow Country up here [Sutherland] is reckoned to be the biggest peat bog in Europe - possibly the world. There was a nice item on one of Paul Murton's programmes a few years ago - often repeated on TV here  :)

    Some info here - and there are plenty of other sites with info
    https://www.theflowcountry.org.uk/world-heritage-site/
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • strange how if you don't agree with everyone, you're a WUM, peat is essential for good plant health and will store CO2 when used in the garden and the plants grown in it will store CO2, it also regenerates quicker than it is farmed, it's just that the green agenda and celebrity gardeners are blackmailing and brainwashing you with misinformation, and because you think its green and saving the planet you believe it. And by the way rhododendrons need peat for propagation. It's still OK for all the other businesses to use peat, is it? Why should 30 million gardeners be forced to use inferior peat free products with additives, (coir) from the other side of the planet, with all the CO2 that that will release. Peat needs to be in seed, potting and ericaceous composts end of.
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