I would also take your time. Yes if you have a mess and plants to ID good to make a start. You could do lots of work in the spring and then realise that you want to change it all again. All gardens look lovely in the spring but many don't look great in August.
Also maybe thoughts on how to develop it for the winter months is something you could consider now. You are obviously a keen gardener because of all your pots, if you are happy to move plants around that is fine but some planning can save time effort and money. If we do have a spring and summer as dry next year you could be doing alot of watering so getting it right first time helps.
Is there part of the garden you could use as a nursery bed that would be one way of getting them out of the pots. When plants come from a previous home you generally have lots of different small plants, a nursery bed will encourage them to grow bigger. You can then select what you want when you want for your new border schemes. Sadly doing something as quickly as possible is not the best way slowly and let it evolve over time is the way to go.
I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
All hawthorns have thorns. You'll get a nice photo when it flowers, but the care for any of them is the same I'd agree the 2nd one does have a look of erica about it, but I agree with @Uff that they tend to be upright in growth, unlike their smaller cousins. Not something I've ever had though, so can't be sure. Perhaps it's a young plant. If you don't care for it - take it out. That's always been my motto. I'm not sentimental about plants though, as a gardener found out when we moved into the house round the corner from here. It had a row of roses up each side of the front path. He knocked on the door one day, because he hadn't been paid for them by the previous owner. I'd taken them all out and chucked them. He was kidding himself if he thought I was putting my hand in my pocket for someone else's debt!
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I'm not sure it's an Erica, it's not stiff enough. I have an Erica here and I had one in my previous house and it had more guts to it than this does, it looks more like a type of ferny plant! Roses.....my Mum had roses from 1953 when she and Dad got married and they were beautiful and bought by her first boss. When they downsized she wanted to take them with her but thought as she had sold the house ' as seen' that she should not as it was summer and they were in full bloom. I can't tell you how gutted she was when we drove to see the old house from outside a few months later, that the new owners had removed every single plant from their old front garden. I almost think Mum was about to cry.
@"bédé" I need to remodel the garden as quickly as possible as it is really a mess. I have lots of plants that I brought with me from my previous home
Ah, so all those pot plants are yours. But the plants for which you ask identification are mostly trees and shrubs that you MAY wish to keep.
So the answer is simple: leave all of them for now. Get your potted plants into soil asap, anywhere. But think that you will be keeping the difficult-to-move-plants in place. Move some smaller ones whilst you think you can. Bin anything you really don't like, now. Plan for 2nd moves next autumn.
Gardening takes time, hard work, and patience.
PS. I wrote my piece before I had read Suze's. Basically we are saying the same thing. There should be no sentiment in gardening (well, not a lot). But certainly no sentiment for someone else's choices.
Do you like thorns? If not, bin the hawthorn whatever its flower colour or autumn leaf promise. In my mind it's a rather ugly shape that would not be easy to correct. The tree though, might be serving some other purpose, like privacy , or shade.
location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand. "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
I have never had a problem saying goodbye to plants that don't work or thrive. I hate to waste them, so many have gone to charity or to a garden where they will be happier. Every plant needs to earn it's keep especially in a small garden. Keeping plants that don't work can stop creativity.
Gardens never stand still, I worked in one full of rare plants many were rescued when the owner died but the whole garden is now just a lawn. The minute a gardener leaves a garden for whatever reason it moves on, within a season it can become almost unrecognisable in someone elses care and I think that is good that things change. I have long given up being sentimental and continuously look for new garden challenges.
I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
I'm just not sentimental about plants @JAYJARDIN. I don't have the ability to be like that with them. If someone buys this house and rips everything out, that's fine by me. It won't be my garden any more so it doesn't matter. I'd be looking ahead to a new site and a new challenge - if I'm still able by that time!
I do understand though, about your Mum. I try not to pass my old house if I can manage it. Mainly because the owners took out a lovely Hornbeam hedge I'd put in and replaced it with leylandii. They also hacked [ or had someone hack ] all the trees that were there and they're a total mess now. That bothers me far more than them taking out plants I put in. Their choices are unsuitable, and unnecessary, for the site.
Perhaps you'll get a better ID for that 2nd plant in spring or summer.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I think the ID of Erica Darlyensis may be correct so at least I have that one resolved.
I love the fact that a garden is everchanging and I do tend to feel sorry for a plant that I dig up and donate elsewhere because I don't like it but as you all say in a small garden every plant has to earn it's keep. Yes I am a serious gardener but know a lot more about flowers than trees and have limited knowledge of shrubs aside from the common ones. I am very nervous of taking my cuttings out of their pots and into what i can see isn't great earth this late in the year so I'm going to keep them in their pots until early Spring and then plant them out. I'm sure they will survive the Winter in their bubble wrapped pots! Well I hope they do! I will be digging out those that I dislike over the Winter if the ground isn't too frozen and I'm thinking about how I want to landscape the garden to get as many planting areas as possible and I need to add a shed and a small greenhouse. The previous owners Astroturf is going- how horrid is Astroturf!! Gardening has made me much more patient than I previously was and I can be out there for hours and not realise how the time has flown by! I will have a few more for ID'ing once I have taken some photos!
@JAYJARDIN I have had mixed results overwintering plants in pots. Not sure if you have mentioned if you live in the south or north of the country? Bubble wrap works better if it is lining a pot which I know isn't practical with small pots. I have tried digging holes and putting the pots in the ground but still the contents of the pot could be frozen whilst the surrounding soil was fine. I have also put pots in a shed for a few days to avoid the worst of a frost and they have still frozen in there. This was in the past and winters are now warmer but a cold snap of minus 4 for 4 days just as an example could be a problem. Unless you can clear an area and sort the soil for your most precious plants there is a risk. Cuttings that have not rooted will need to take their chance as you say. It would be an opportunity just to dig down and see what is going on if not too wet. I guess you know if there are any pipes down there.
Send some ID's when you are ready lots of forum members will kindly help.
I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
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I would also take your time. Yes if you have a mess and plants to ID good to make a start. You could do lots of work in the spring and then realise that you want to change it all again. All gardens look lovely in the spring but many don't look great in August.
Also maybe thoughts on how to develop it for the winter months is something you could consider now. You are obviously a keen gardener because of all your pots, if you are happy to move plants around that is fine but some planning can save time effort and money. If we do have a spring and summer as dry next year you could be doing alot of watering so getting it right first time helps.
Is there part of the garden you could use as a nursery bed that would be one way of getting them out of the pots. When plants come from a previous home you generally have lots of different small plants, a nursery bed will encourage them to grow bigger. You can then select what you want when you want for your new border schemes.
Sadly doing something as quickly as possible is not the best way slowly and let it evolve over time is the way to go.
Yes!! the Hawthorn has a few thorns on it.
I'd agree the 2nd one does have a look of erica about it, but I agree with @Uff that they tend to be upright in growth, unlike their smaller cousins. Not something I've ever had though, so can't be sure. Perhaps it's a young plant.
If you don't care for it - take it out. That's always been my motto. I'm not sentimental about plants though, as a gardener found out when we moved into the house round the corner from here. It had a row of roses up each side of the front path. He knocked on the door one day, because he hadn't been paid for them by the previous owner. I'd taken them all out and chucked them. He was kidding himself if he thought I was putting my hand in my pocket for someone else's debt!
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Roses.....my Mum had roses from 1953 when she and Dad got married and they were beautiful and bought by her first boss. When they downsized she wanted to take them with her but thought as she had sold the house ' as seen' that she should not as it was summer and they were in full bloom. I can't tell you how gutted she was when we drove to see the old house from outside a few months later, that the new owners had removed every single plant from their old front garden. I almost think Mum was about to cry.
So the answer is simple: leave all of them for now. Get your potted plants into soil asap, anywhere. But think that you will be keeping the difficult-to-move-plants in place. Move some smaller ones whilst you think you can. Bin anything you really don't like, now. Plan for 2nd moves next autumn.
Gardening takes time, hard work, and patience.
PS. I wrote my piece before I had read Suze's. Basically we are saying the same thing. There should be no sentiment in gardening (well, not a lot). But certainly no sentiment for someone else's choices.
Do you like thorns? If not, bin the hawthorn whatever its flower colour or autumn leaf promise. In my mind it's a rather ugly shape that would not be easy to correct. The tree though, might be serving some other purpose, like privacy , or shade.
"Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
Gardens never stand still, I worked in one full of rare plants many were rescued when the owner died but the whole garden is now just a lawn.
The minute a gardener leaves a garden for whatever reason it moves on, within a season it can become almost unrecognisable in someone elses care and I think that is good that things change. I have long given up being sentimental and continuously look for new garden challenges.
I do understand though, about your Mum. I try not to pass my old house if I can manage it. Mainly because the owners took out a lovely Hornbeam hedge I'd put in and replaced it with leylandii. They also hacked [ or had someone hack ] all the trees that were there and they're a total mess now. That bothers me far more than them taking out plants I put in. Their choices are unsuitable, and unnecessary, for the site.
Perhaps you'll get a better ID for that 2nd plant in spring or summer.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I love the fact that a garden is everchanging and I do tend to feel sorry for a plant that I dig up and donate elsewhere because I don't like it but as you all say in a small garden every plant has to earn it's keep. Yes I am a serious gardener but know a lot more about flowers than trees and have limited knowledge of shrubs aside from the common ones.
I am very nervous of taking my cuttings out of their pots and into what i can see isn't great earth this late in the year so I'm going to keep them in their pots until early Spring and then plant them out. I'm sure they will survive the Winter in their bubble wrapped pots! Well I hope they do! I will be digging out those that I dislike over the Winter if the ground isn't too frozen and I'm thinking about how I want to landscape the garden to get as many planting areas as possible and I need to add a shed and a small greenhouse. The previous owners Astroturf is going- how horrid is Astroturf!! Gardening has made me much more patient than I previously was and I can be out there for hours and not realise how the time has flown by!
I will have a few more for ID'ing once I have taken some photos!
This was in the past and winters are now warmer but a cold snap of minus 4 for 4 days just as an example could be a problem. Unless you can clear an area and sort the soil for your most precious plants there is a risk. Cuttings that have not rooted will need to take their chance as you say. It would be an opportunity just to dig down and see what is going on if not too wet. I guess you know if there are any pipes down there.
Send some ID's when you are ready lots of forum members will kindly help.